On 18 Nov 2010, at 21:16, Bill Bumgarner wrote: > > On Nov 18, 2010, at 1:10 PM, John Engelhart wrote: > >> The basic premise behind self = [super init...] is that the "lower levels of >> initialization are free to return a different object than the one passed in". >> >> However, there is an unstated assumption in this reasoning: whatever object >> is returned by [super init...] is the one that will be used. > > > I don't understand the above claim; Why must the object returned by [super > init*] be the one that is used? > > I'm certainly not aware of any limitation on an init method that would > prevent it from… say… calling [super init], releasing whatever is returned if > deemed unfit and then allocating an initializing some other instance. > > The documentation > (http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/cocoa/Conceptual/ObjectiveC/Articles/ocAllocInit.html) > doesn't seem to make any such claim either. > > I haven't read beyond the above yet. Maybe the unstated assumption is > explained?
Indeed, the behaviour of immutable strings and containers seem to back up this assertion #import <Foundation/Foundation.h> int main (int argc, char ** argv) { NSAutoreleasePool *pool = [[NSAutoreleasePool alloc] init]; NSString *s1 = @""; NSString *s2 = [NSString stringWithString:s1]; NSString *s3 = [NSString alloc]; NSString *s4 = [s3 initWithString:s2]; NSLog(@"%p, %p, %p, %p", s1, s2, s3, s4); [pool drain]; } prints 2010-11-18 21:39:35.767 Test[18767:a0f] 0x100001050, 0x100001050, 0x10010d470, 0x100001050 So our allocated string is certainly substituted during initialisation. Bob_______________________________________________ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com