Hello Flavio,

On 24/03/2011, at 11:53, Flavio Donadio wrote:

> I am late in this thread, but I don't understand why you need import/export. 
> Is it just meant for backup purposes or is it a facility for the users to get 
> data from other applications into yours (and out of it)?

I've clarified that in another message I think, sorry. I should have included 
it in the main message; anyway, the export will be a facility for backing up 
the database and sharing it with other users.

> 
> If it is the second case, why not stick with "delimited text" or "CSV-style" 
> files?
> 
> XML is not easy to edit for the average user, although it sure is 
> human-readable.

Yes, I'm aware of that, but editing is not obligatory. I'm just providing an 
extra feature for the user who knows what is a XML and thus wants to edit it.

> CSV, on the other hand, is pure text and can be imported by Excel, Numbers or 
> any other spreadsheet app. Users could get data from others sources (HTML 
> tables, SQL databases, spreadsheets, whatever...) into your app and out of it.
> 
> I do this a lot: select table contents in web page, copy and paste into 
> Numbers. I can delete some unneeded rows and columns, export into CSV and 
> then insert into a database, for example. PHPMyAdmin can generate and import 
> CSV files.

CSV is not something I had thought about, but maybe it could be included in the 
app for convenience. Thanks for the idea.

> 
> When validating aCSV file for importing, if a line does not conform to a 
> pre-defined format, you'll have to drop it. You can always show a dialog at 
> the end of the process that says something like "Some lines could not be 
> imported." and generate a report in a file for the user to see which lines 
> were dropped.
> 
> If you go the XML route, I am almost sure you'll need a DTD for validation.

Yes, I'll have to do it. I think XML is the path to follow.

> 
> I hope it helps...

Certainly Sir!

Thanks for providing your opinions and help,

Best wishes,

Siegfried

> On 23/03/2011, at 21:55, Siegfried wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I need to create an export / import system for my app, and just thought that 
>> asking the list for some advices could help a lot.
>> 
>> The CoreData database I have is fairly simple. No relationships, only 3 
>> entities with no more than 4 properties each: numbers and strings. So I 
>> think exporting this as XML is the more appropriate solution. Also, it would 
>> allow users make changes in the file easily.
>> 
>> Are there any serious drawbacks from using this method? Or may a better 
>> solution? What worries me most is the XML validation. It's not a high 
>> priority, but having an at least decent XML is worthwhile. The big question: 
>> A header saying XML version 1.0 is enough? Or do I need to create a DTD?
>> 
>> Also, now on the mechanics, I think creating a mutable string and go 
>> appending parts of the XML in a loop is adequate for this task, and using 
>> NSXMLParser to parse it back should work. Indeed, the file will not be that 
>> big (usually a few hundreds of KBs, really extremes cases are 1 or 2MB). 
>> Well, at least I'm not aware of a framework to export / import CoreData, I 
>> don't even think it is possible.
>> 
>> Any "yes" or "no" on my ideas are really appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Siegfried
> 

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