On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:09 PM, dangerwillrobinsondan...@gmail.com wrote:

> There is no Cocoa to this. This is OT. 

That is absolutely not true, it is *entirely* a question of Cocoa API, but….

> Thread should end.

…I’ll actually request the thread end, because it has unfortunately been 
swallowed by emotions, rather than holding to the simple question of nuts and 
bolts. This was nothing more than a question of can the machine (OS X) be made 
to do function X. I went further to describe the actual use-case, as that is a 
common first question received when seeking a solution, for the purposes of 
illustrating the need and the challenge — not for instigating a discussion of 
how unreasonable my clients are, how the use-case is suspicious and must be in 
some way nefarious, etc. Debating the merits of the use-case was not the point 
— the potential function of the machine was the point. 

Not all security measures are useless just because there’s another potential 
breach elsewhere, or because an underground cabal operating in a secret lair 
within a volcano can crack it using a satellite orbiting the Earth. I am not 
tasked with solving all of those issues, even if they are legitimate issues. I 
am tasked with solving exactly the functions I asked about — which are direct 
no-ops for large customer contracts.

I’ve got a fair pulse on the mailing list response, which in general is “you’re 
dumb for asking” (points for consistency — it was much the same when I posted 
about this a year ago). I’m not that cynical, I see the merits in the need (and 
for that matter, Apple’s own engineers did too when we sat down and discussed 
it in person). Furthermore, solving the problem brings keeps this app on OS X, 
and allows a large number of educational and professional users around the 
world to use Macs for their needs, rather than have these institutions / 
organizations have to tell their testers “you must run Windows”. 

Secure, remote testing isn’t going away — it is a huge market only in its 
infancy — and if anyone wonders how OS market share swings, this is an example 
— ignoring market needs. So in the future, if you are getting a Master’s 
degree, and your college tells you that a Windows PC is a pre-requisite, well, 
you can dig up this thread in the Cocoa-dev archives and have an example of why 
requirements like that come to be. 

If it is up to me, that won’t be the case — I’m the eternal optimist, and hope 
to solve the problem in a manner acceptable to content providers, and keep 
people testing on Macs. I still can’t post a DTS issue, and I’ve had no 
response yet from Mac Dev Program support, but hopefully I’ll eventually get 
through and get some help there. 

Thanks for the folks who responded offline. Your feedback was extremely 
helpful. 

Cheers,

Brad



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