Am Fre, 2002-03-08 um 14.48 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > Just lurking... but I think I have a lead for an XForms > (http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/) implementation that might be > donation-to-apache material. Are people interested? this is a great idea.
> > Also, XForms just went into last call, so people should review in any case. > > -scott > > > > > > > "memo" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > cc: (bcc: Scott >Boag/Cambridge/IBM) > 03/08/2002 04:27 Subject: RE: Wyona / Xopus > > AM > > Please respond to > > cocoon-dev > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeremy Quinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 15:30 > > -- snip > > > At 2:48 pm +0100 7/3/02, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > > >The Wyona guys also have form-based editing... which no matter what, I > > >can't get to like. The fact that I can't make something 'strong' in the > > >middle of a form makes me puke, no matter what. > > > > This is the kind of thing I am _aiming_ for with <slash-edit/> > > > > Well, I need to defend Martin's HTML form editor a little, as he won't do > it. I know that it's not really impressive, but at least you *can* > emphasize > parts or insert links or even tables (!) anywhere you want, because the > editor supports XHTML in all input fields. The only thing missing ATM is a > check for the well-formedness of the XHTML, if you make a mistake you can > bring the whole application down (arrgh!), but I am working on that right > now, and hope to finish it next week, if I get the chance to work with > Wyona > some more (if I don't, somebody else will finish it surely). > > Also, I believe that having a HTML-forms editor is always a good fallback, > as for most other solutions, you will have to do some browser and platform > specific hacks, which might need upgrading each time a new browser version > comes out. > > On the other hand, I agree that the Xopus-kinda-stuff is immensely more > sexy, and the Wyona CMS will definitely have at least one way to do some > fancy inline editing. Even a way to do style editing in the same wysiwyg, > inline way is planned for the future, as the general belief is that you > cannot really rely on designers to be able to write proper XSL stylesheets. > Just this morning, we have also been discussing about something like a > Velocity2XsltTransformer. Then, at least, designers would have the > possibility to use commercial tools like Dreamweaver to do their stuff. Any > comments on that? > > > >Sure, you can write 'structured text' and let the system parse it... > > >yuck! we can do better than that. > > > > **| Yea ||^$£||I dont't want to |*|have|*| to || -- write -- like this > > either ;) > > > > But you could make some very simple vocabularies that would be > > useful, like > > auto paragraphs, auto BRs, maybe things like !!this is strong!!, > > who knows, > > people have to start playing with it and come up with what is appropriate > > to them. > > > > I don't think that inventing new languages all the time is helping the > development. We should use something that is already there, and easy to > use, > like Velocity or XHTML for example. Any other ideas? > > > I still want to be able to have editors accessing link and image > > glossaries > > and the like in their content, and simple stuff like strong and emphasis, > > so I am still aiming to make this work in normal forms. > > > > >There's no way out: Mozilla is the key. We must find a way to implement > > >Xopus concepts into Mozilla. > > > > That would be wonderful! > > > > Mozilla forever! If only the mail client would support Ctrl-Enter for > sending mail (sigh!) ;-) > > > Cheers, > > Memo > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
