Berin, I'm currently considering ORDBMS support in esql, well, actually, I do have a version here that does it for C2. Anyway, I'd like to share some thoughts on it. The simplest ORDBMS support would be to allow the user to get an object from the query and to leave it to her/him how to deal with it. In addition one could extend get-columns to extract advanced datatypes as well. Over here on Informix IUS 9.21 these are mostly of java.sql.Types.STRUCT for row types and java.sql.Types.OTHER for everything else like sets, lists, bags. One way to determine the correct type would be to try to cast the object to an appropriate interface, say java.util.Set. How should the structure of an attribute be represented? Nesting alone wouldn't do since it wouldn't be possible to distinguish sets from structs. So we should introduce something like "sql-list", "sql-row", "sql-set", plus some "sql-item" elements to capture e.g. the list members. So far I didn't find a way e.g. to name the components of a struct. Would it make sense to provide specialized "get-" methods for complex data types like "get-set"? (I don't think so.) Another issue arises: encoding. "First class" attributes can be read through getBytes() and converted afterwards. But nested attributes only offer a toString() method, right? Would it be right to disable the encoding parameter on nested attributes? Another feature could be, to manipulate the type mapping table for a jdbc connection and allow to map advanced or user defined types to map to a user provided java class. Jdbc drivers sometimes come with a utility to create such a class from a db schema. Other features I'd like to see in esql (and have a working copy already ;-) Supplying column names / numbers from a XSP variable (esql differs from other taglibs in that it doesn't use the "<esql:param name="column">1</esql:param>" notation, instead it uses "<esql:column></esql:column>". I would like to change that.) Offer some direct paths to the esql code, like "get-metadata", "get-column-type", "get-object", or even "get-resultset" Make "get-xml" more powerful so that the db needs only to store fragments of an xml document. Currently, only a root element without any attributes is allowed here. Thus it is not possible e.g. to specify a namespace for the fragment. (not done yet) BTW since it is possible to include other logicsheets, would it be wise to put all utility tags (copy-all, get-nested-content, get-parameter and the like) to a common logicsheet so that they could easily be used by new logicsheets? TIA for comments. Chris. -- C h r i s t i a n H a u l [EMAIL PROTECTED] fingerprint: 99B0 1D9D 7919 644A 4837 7D73 FEF9 6856 335A 9E08 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]