> -----Original Message-----
> From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:27 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [C2][VOTE] Sync C2.0 and C2.1 branches
>
>
> Team,
> Here's a summary of the VOTE so far. If anyone has not voted yet, please add your
>vote below:
>
> Thanks,
> dims
>
> --- Berin Loritsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> > Team,
> >
> > Here are the "significant" differences. Please go ahead and add your +1/-1/0 to
>each item. If i
> > have missed anything, please add it to the bottom of the list with your vote.
> >
> > 1) XML:DB Generators - There are two generators in C2.1 for dealing with data from
>XML:DB data
> sources
>
> Carsten : +0 (These are additional components which do not affect the core)
> Berin : -1 This should be reason to upgrade, not necessary or as well tested as
>other C2.0
> generators.
> Giacomo : +0 as well. Yes, they don't affect the core. But as it is an XML stream
>comming from an
> xmldb what about making it a protocl (dbxml:/db/mydocs/foo[is='bar'])?
> John : +0
> Dims : +0 Need out of the box samples
+0. Needs caching (if possible) and samples.
>
> > 2) FOP Serializers / Renderer Components - C2.1 has a configurable, SAX based
>Serializer that
> supports PCL, PS and PDF.
>
> Carsten : +1 (I tend to think that the FOP serializer belongs to the core)
> Berin : +1 Latest FOP makes it easier to create XSL:FO documents and see expected
>results.
> Giacomo : +1
> John : +1 This shouldn't impact anyone currently using 2.0
> Dims : +1
+1
>
> > 3) JUnit based Test cases - C2.1 has a framework for test cases from Stuart
>
> Carsten : +0
> Berin : +0 Avalon uses JUnit for Test cases, and I am all for it--this is
>somewhat lower
> priority though.
> Giacomo : +0
> John : +0 Good for 2.1 - required for 2.0? Prob not.
> Dims : +0 We need to work start adding more of them.
+0
>
> > 4) Source Interface changes - C2.1 has changes from Ovidiu for better core
>implementation.
>
> Carsten : +5 (Important core changes)
> Berin : +1 The API should be stable when we release C2.0
> Giacomo : +1
> John : +1 Best to try and keep the core in sync
> Dims : +5 We need to keep the core in sync.
+1
>
> > 5) LogKit mechanism - C2.1 has better support for log messages from Giacomo
> Carsten : +5 (Great work from Giacomo)
> Berin : +10 Fine grained control of the Loggers is definitely needed. This allows
>us to pay
> attention only to the information we want to see.
> Giacomo : +1, thanks :)
> John : +1 Seconded!
> Dims : +5
+5
>
> > 6) Site WEBAPP - Separate Webapp for SITE from Donald Ball.
>
> Carsten : +0 to +1 (could make SITE maintanance a bit easier?)
> Berin : -0 It would be nice to have, but the first thing I would ax on a time
>crunch
> Giacomo : +1
> John : +1
> Dims : +0 Maybe later for C2.1
+0 to +1.
>
> > 7) SiteBuilder - Sitemap editor cocoon app contribution from Sergio
>
> Carsten : Haven't tested it yet.
> Berin : -10 SiteBuilder is in its infancy, I would like to see it mature before
>being in a
> cocoon release
> Giacomo : -0. I still see it throwing exceptions.
> John : I've not used this either
> Dims : -1 Definitely needs more work
0
>
> > 8) Catalog Support - Entity Catalog support from David Crossley
>
> Carsten : +1
> Berin : +.5 I like the ability to set a bunch of entities (like all the ISO
>entities) and have
> them resolve, but give precidence to stability and API consistency.
> Giacomo : +1
> John : Or this - but I can see why it's needed! (+1)
> Dims : +1
+0
>
> > 9) Better JSP Support - JspEngineImplWLS and JSPEngineImplNamedDispatcherInclude
>from Bernhard
>
> Carsten : +1
> Berin : -0 I don't use JSP, so there is little for me to gain here. (I am biased
>though).
> Giacomo : +0
> John : 0 - I don't use JSP
> Dims : +1 Some people need it.
+1. JSPReader also would be nice component to have.
>
> > 10) Parent Component Manager Support - Specify a configurable parent Component
>Manager from Leo
>
> Carsten : +1
> Berin : +0 I haven't seen it in full action yet. Leo does good work and consults
>smart folks ;)
> but I would have it slated for C2.1
> Giacomo : +1
> John : +1
> Dims : +1 But we need better documentation for this.
+0
>
> > 11) XSLTProcessor + TRaX Transformer update - componentize TRaX support from Ovidiu
>
> Carsten : +1 (core changes)
> Berin : +0 If it is critical functionality, ok. If not, I would hold off on it.
>Remember we
> do want to give people a reason to upgrade.
> Giacomo : +1
> John : +1
> Dims : +1 - We should also check our SAXON support to see if anything is broken
+1
>
> > 12) Simple Profiler and related Event Pipelines - Profiler Support from Vadim
>
> Carsten : +1 (could help in starting with C2)
> Berin : -1 I like profiler support, but this should be for C2.1
> Giacomo : +0. Don't know the stability of it.
> John : +0 I need to look into this soon...
> Dims : -1 Need to flesh it out.
+0
>
> > 13) DatabaseSelectionAction.java
>
> Carsten : +0
> Berin : +1 This eases form development
> Giacomo : +0 Didn't know this is in 2.1 only.
> John : +0 Don't use...
> Dims : +0 Have not used it.
+0.5. Also would be nice to keep syntax of Database*Action descriptors in sync
>
> > 14) ScriptAction.java
>
> Carsten : +1 (simple writing of actions)
> Berin : -1 Leave for C2.1 and make sure it works well
> Giacomo : +1
> John : +0 Again, don't use.
> Dims : +0 Haven't used it.
+0
>
> > 15) ServerPagesAction.java / action.xsl
>
> Carsten : +0
> Berin : -1 We need to see this mature a little more.
> Giacomo : -0
> John : +0 guess what...
> Dims : +0 Maybe later
+0
>
> > 16) IncludeCacheValidity.java and CachingCIncludeTransformer.java
>
> Carsten : -1 (it depends on to many internal assumptions right now)
> Berin : +1 It would speed up so many things for me.
> Giacomo : +0 Don't know its state.
> John : +0
> Dims : +1 Need to test...
0
>
> > 17) Updated AbstractMarkupLanguage.java, LogicSheet.java, NamedLogicSheet.java.
>
> Carsten : If this affects core changes +1
> Berin : +1
> Giacomo : +1
> John : Agreed +1
> Dims : +1 definitely
+1
>
> > 18) Slightly updated HttpRequest.java.
>
> Carsten : +1
> Berin : +1
> Giacomo : +1
> John : +1
> Dims : +1
+1
>
>
> > 19) Updated EnvironmentWrapper.java.
>
> Carsten : +1
> Berin : +1
> Giacomo : +1
> John : +1
> Dims : +1
+1
>
> > 20) Updated Directory/File Generator.java
>
> Carsten : +1
> Berin : +1
> Giacomo : +1
> John : +1
> Dims : +1
+1
>
> > 21) updated i18n Transformer.
>
> Carsten : +1
> Berin : +1
> Giacomo : +5
> John : +1
> Dims : +1
+0
>
> > 22) Trivial SOAP samples.
>
> Carsten : +1 (Examples, yes!)
> Berin : -1 This is new functionality that should probably wait.
> Giacomo : +0
> John : +0 I do think that it's xsl files ought to be moved from docs/samples/soap
>though...
> Dims : -1 Need SOAP Taglib from Ovidiu
0
>
> > 23) RoleFilterTransformer.java
>
> Carsten : What's this? I must have missed it.
> Berin : -1 I wrote it, but I know it needs a bit more testing
> Giacomo : +0
> John : +0
> Dims : -1 Needs samples too.
0
>
> > 24) CocoonTargetFactory.java
>
> Carsten : What's this? I must have missed it, too.
> Berin : -0 I am not familiar with this piece of code
> Giacomo : It's part of the move to the LogKit Management where you have Factories
>for different
> LogTargets. As Cocoon has a custom LogTarget (CocoonLogTarget) I've written the
>corresponding
> Factory for it. So here is no voting needed/acceptable.
> John : No Vote Needed as per Giacomo.
> Dims : No Vote Needed as per Giacomo.
>
> > 25) XMLizable interface
>
> Carsten : +1
> Berin : -1 Additional API is acceptable--changed API makes people mad.
> Giacomo : +1
> John : +1
> Dims : +1 as this is part of the Source changes (?)
+0
>
> > 26) SEL taglib
>
> Carsten : +0
> Berin : -0 I am not familiar with this. If it is XSPAction related then -1 for
>afforementioned
> reasons
> Giacomo : +0 What the hell is this. Must have missed it.
> John : 0 Me too!
> Dims : +0
0
>
> > 27) Action taglib
>
> Carsten : +0
> Berin : -1 Goes with XSP Action above.
> Giacomo : +0
> John : +0
> Dims : +0
0
>
> > 28) More sub sitemap samples.
>
> Carsten : +5 (yes, examples!)
> Berin : -0 Again it is probably trivial--but I would ax it when faced with a time
>crunch
> Giacomo : +1
> John : +1 examples - the more the merrier :) Donald - you've had some prettily
>formatted
> documents on your site - what ever happened to them? Could they be added too?
> Dims : +1 Need to test it.
+1
Vadim
>
>
>
>
> =====
> Davanum Srinivas, JNI-FAQ Manager
> http://www.jGuru.com/faq/JNI
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