Hi All, My understanding of the form validator is: for each constraint in the constraint set { if (request parameter not null) { validate constraints } else { if (not nullable) { if (default exists) { substitute default for null value } else { error } } else { null } } } However because there is no setParameter() method on the Request object, it is impossible for the default value to be substituted. Therefore currently the default value mechanism does not work in FormValidatorAction. One possibility is to set the new value into an attribute, but this requires that any action that expects a value from a parameter must now check the attributes. This involves changing existing actions (possibly lots of them). I've produced a patch for AbstractDatabaseAction which allows attributes to override parameters but I'm hanging on to it until I can get the best overall solution clear in my head. Can somebody please explain to me why there is no setParameter() method on the Request object? I'm sure there's a very good design reason, but for me it seems a very quick and easy solution to allowing a chain of actions working on the same request to update the request parameters as they flow through the actions. The alternative seems to be to have *every* action read from both attributes and parameters and set new values into attributes. If this is the solution then perhaps we can produce a single helper object where this work can be done. I understand that you are all very busy with the next build but I think this is quite a serious problem when requests flow through a chain of actions. Thanks and Best Regards, Chris -- Chris Newland Software Research Engineer Emorphia Ltd Registered in England. 4133002 Mill House, Station Approach, Harlow Mill, Harlow, Essex, CM20 2EL, UK Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 (0)1279 450100 Fax: +44 (0)1279 450102 Check out FIPA-OS at http://fipa-os.sourceforge.net/ This message may contain information proprietary to Emorphia so any unauthorised disclosure, copying or distribution of its contents is strictly prohibited. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]