Dave, Please move this discussion over to cocoon-dev mailing list if you really want good feedback. You will find that the people over there are quite ready to accept new concepts, criticism, patches, contributions etc :)
Thanks, dims --- Jeff Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 08:58:06PM -0800, Dave Jarvis wrote: > > Hello, again. > > > > Neeme Praks wrote: > > > Have you ever had a look at Apache Cocoon project? That achieves all the > > > > Yes. > > > > > benefits you outlined in your paper plus more. > > > > Here are a few items BOX addresses that Cocoon does not (as far as I can > > discern; please correct my errors): > > > > o doesn't provide an inherent state-based architecture (it's an aside, > > not focus) > > Nope, they threw out the "reactor" (state machine) pattern as being too > hard to manage. > > > o doesn't automatically apply a different view of logic based on the > > domain > > Certainly can :) Have a look at Cocoon 2's class > org.apache.cocoon.selection.HostSelector. > > > o extremely complex; it mixes multiple languages and odd syntax (e.g., > > &connectDatabase) > > That's just your particular XSP, which uses an XML entity > "&connectDatabase;" to pull in other XSP. If you put your logic in > logicsheets as intended, then your XSP pages are pure XML. > > > o makes it easy to couple presentation and logic (see below) > > Actually, XSP makes it easy to mix *content* and logic (presentation is > in XSLs). > > > o lacks an integrated expression parser > > o doesn't expose a consistent syntax for doing tasks such as: > > - file I/O > > - sending XML to remote servers > > Have a look at Cocoon 2's xscript SOAP demo (xscript being an XSP > equivalent of James Strachan's xtags taglib). > > > - calling native code (Java, C, Perl, etc.) > > - SQL statements > > o cookies, FORM parameters, and URL encoded variables are not treated > > uniformly > > o doesn't use plain XML (i.e., embeds other language source directly) > > Anyway, if you've got time, hop on cocoon-dev.. I'm sure there's much > mutual learning to be had (it's a fun place to lurk anyway). Cocoon 2 > has a very generic architecture, and I've no doubt that your code could > be integrated as an XSP alternative. > > > --Jeff > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > In case of troubles, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ===== Davanum Srinivas - http://jguru.com/dims/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
