"Tom Klaasen (TeleRelay)" wrote:

> Time to show the world what Cocoon is really worth!

Please, Tom, a little todo list for you:

Try asking [EMAIL PROTECTED] about getting out of FreeBSD to run Java
decently.

Try asking them to install a servlet engine, a servlet that might need
several hundred megabytes of RAM and a native XML database all summing
up to more than a *million* of lines of code (apache is around 50000!)

Then report back to us. :)

Easy, you say: let's move xml.apache.org on another machine.

Good, try asking them about this.

It has been *YEARS* that we java-related members fight to have more
dynamic stuff on apache.org, but dynamism for them means .htaccess with
some mod_rewrite stuff and some content negotation.

Why this? several reasons, and some ego-related, but mainly: the less
dynamic stuff, the less security problems.

At the same time, the more machines, the less centralized the sys-admin
becomes for [EMAIL PROTECTED] that has to delegate more and more.

If it was for me, we would have xml.apache.org hosted on Cocoon since
summer 1999, but believe me, it's much easier to write a portable HTML
than to have Cocoon installed on apache servers.

yes, I hope to change this in the future and this Forrest effort is the
first step in this direction, but it's the first step, not the last one.

-- 
Stefano Mazzocchi      One must still have chaos in oneself to be
                          able to give birth to a dancing star.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>                             Friedrich Nietzsche
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