In keeping with my last post... There have been some great discussions on this list, and presumably on other lists such as those devoted to Avalon, that imply some deep underlying models of what makes good web architecture and good software design. In some cases these discussions have led to some valuable results, such as the Avalon and Excalibur frameworks. However my opinion, as someone who lurks on the Cocoon lists, is that much of the discussions disappear into the ether. The "Developer's Guide version 1.0 for Avalon Framework" is a really great example of how some of these discussions can become useful resources for newbies or those, such as myself, who are less inclined to ponder deep issues.
I realize that the "deep thinkers" in the Cocoon sphere are busy pushing the envelope, making fixes, and generally making Cocoon a great project. However there are some discussions that I feel need to be recorded, otherwise they will continue to be points of contention and concern. Stefano, though his RTs and the discussion they engender, is the primary "culprit", but there are others on the list who could also contribute their conceptual models and approaches. The kinds of things I am referring to include (off the top of my head): - SoC (What does a concern look like? How much separation is enough? Etc. ) - The "proper" design of URLs (.../cocoon1 vs. .../cocoon/old vs. ...) <grumble> People on this list do step in and say "this is mixing concerns" and "that' s not a proper URL". This is a good thing for Cocoon. However, to paraphrase, "Tell a developer not to do something and you fix the current implementation/design. Teach them how to recognize good and bad things, and you fix all future implementations/designs." I want to learn, damnit! </grumble> The subject of the message was intended to elicit from Stefano his heuristics regarding designing URLs. Even a bunch of references would be nice, although in my opinion Tim Berner-Lee's discussions, which I imagine would be a reference, aren't that understandable. However I would ask that any of you who have similar design heuristics share them with us. Please! Jason Foster --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
