Hi Cocoon Devs, Can somebody recommend the best way to deal with the issue? The problem is that <map:serialize/> does not allow parameters and the question is how to live without it. See corresponding thread on the user list.
Should we add support for cache-aware serializers implementing SitemapModelComponent? Thanks, Vadim > -----Original Message----- > From: Stefan Seifert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 10:32 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: AW: How to define custom parameter for map:serialize? > > No, output ist RTF. No, before you ask: we cannot use FOP and the > builtin RTF Serializer because we have some special requirements not > supported by FOP (i.e. automatic line numbering which is supported by > Word/RTF, but not in FOP). > > Seeing your answers i'm thinking about another way, that seems quite > hacked for me: Writing a transformer that uses the incoming data and our > Template, puts all generated RTF in one huge single XML Element and a > custom serializer "serializes" this without changes as text output. > > Is this the cleanest solution in Cocoon?? > > Stefan > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Vadim Gritsenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. März 2002 16:17 > > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Betreff: RE: How to define custom parameter for map:serialize? > > > > > > > From: Stefan Seifert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > <snip/> > > > > > > > This was discussed several times and the result is: "serializers > > > > must be > > > > unaware of environment they running in and always produce same > > > > response > > > > independent of environment state". IIRC, this has to do with the > > > > caching. Implement custom transformer if you want, it can have > > > > parameters. > > > > > > The problem is we have written a "template-based" serializer. The > > > pipeline generates the data, and the serializer uses the > > > template and the date to produce the output. > > > > Is output in XML format? (HTML?). If yes, than your serializer is > > perfect candidate for transformer. > > > > > > > The template is unfortunately not in > > > XML-Format, so it cannot be processed in the pipeline. > > > > It is Ok, it is not required to be XML (see above). > > > > > > > Instead the > > > template filename should be passed as parameter to the serializer. > > > > > > If caching is the only reason for not being able to allow > > > pipeline-dependent parameters - in this case it would be > > > simple to not use the caching (i.e. do not implementing the > > > Cachable-Interface) for > > > this special serializer and there should be no problem with caching. > > > > > > In the existing C2 architecture the lack of pipeline-dependent > > > parameters is quite limiting. > > > > You can try and open the discussion on the dev list. > > > > > > > > > Now the only solution is to put the template parameter in the XML > > > stream to "parameterize" the serializer (but this is mixing > > > of content and formatting information) or to fix it in the > > > serializer definition and > > > duplicate the serializer for each different parameter which is even > > > worse (and it would be not possible to get the parameter definition > > > from a database or other source). > > > > Or to write a transformer. Clean and (btw) cacheable solution. > > > > > > > Patching cocoon for our needs in this case is no option either, > > > because this would change interfaces "in the heart" of the > > > pipeline processing and we would not be able to upgrade > > > to future cocoon-versions without problems. > > > > > > I think a lot of other serializers would benefit from > > > pipeline-dependent parameters, too, i.e. the compressing > > > factor/background color of the svg > > > serializer or the doctype of the HTML serializer (just think of the > > > problems of some Netcape 6 version with some special doctype > > > definitions). > > > > > > Stefan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]