----- Original Message -----
From: "Torsten Curdt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ivelin Ivanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: Cocoon Form Handling


> On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, Ivelin Ivanov wrote:
> <snip/>
>
> > > ok - then we are on the same track... but please consider the
population
> > > syntax I proposed. I think resetting something is misleading and it
works
> > > fine without.
> >
> > I certainly would. You put a lot more thought into your code than I have
for
> > the snippet above.
> > Can you please paste your code <here/> so that I can match exactly your
> > syntax to the one above?
>
> see it action or event based rather than page based. a hit on a button
> generates an event or action that populates and (maybe) validates. So you
> are completely free to populate or not populate, to validate or not
> validate on this specific event.

Now I understand. It is actually in line with the recent Java Server Faces
JSR which is mostly based on Struts, which in turn I appreciate.
http://jcp.org/jsr/detail/127.jsp

>
> > > I have already implemented an abstraction for the binding. So binding
a
> > > bean is the same a having no a simple DOM as instance store instead.
> >
> > Yammy!
> > How does one choose JavaBean vs DOM binding?
>
> Currently you just use a different implementation. But this should go
> into a factory instead.
>
> look a this multiaction example:
>
> public class PreceptorDemoAction extends AbstractPreceptorAction {
>   public Map introspection(Redirector redirector, SourceResolver resolver,
Map objectModel, String src, Parameters par) throws Exception {
>     Session session = createSession(objectModel);
>
>     Preceptor preceptor =
preceptorRegistry.lookupPreceptor("cocoon-installation");
>
>     // for a DOM
>     Instance instance = instanceFactory.createDOMInstance();
>     // for a Bean
>     MyBean bean = new MyBean();
>     Instance instance = instanceFactory.createBeanInstance(bean);

A slight modification maybe. If we deal with a multi-page wizard, then the
instance may already be in the session.
So createInstane on request would only happen for the first page, but should
then be reused for subsequent wizard pages.

>
>     instance.initialize(preceptor);
>
>     // if DOM or Bean you can always use
>     instance.setValue("cocoon-installation/user/name","enter here");


Based on experience, an application would be mostly either all DOM or all
JavaBeans based.
These few lines above should be probably replaced with some component
parameter.

>
>     session.setAttribute("feedbackform",instance);
>     return(page(FIRST));
>   }
>   public Map doNext(Redirector redirector, SourceResolver resolver, Map
objectModel, String src, Parameters par) throws Exception {


does the reset() checkbox logic go here?


>     populate(objectModel, "feedbackform", "cocoon-installation/user/*");
>
>     List errors = validate(objectModel, "feedbackform",
"cocoon-installation/user/*");
>     if(errors != null) {
>       getLogger().debug("there are errors on the page");
>       return (page(FIRST));
>     }
>     else {
>       getLogger().debug("all constraints are ok");
>       return (page(SECOND));
>     }
>   }
>
>
> So a 3 page wizard basically means 3 event hooks aka methods like the
"doNext".
>
>
> So if we manage to have a preceptor
>
>   public interface Preceptor {
>     public ConstraintList getConstraitsFor( String xpath );
>     public boolean isValidNode( String xpath );
>   }
>
> ...wrapping the different validation APIs we can drop in
> each validating schema: XSD,RELAX,DTD and (with the API link you sent)
> maybe even Schematron...


Oh boy, this is good. Let me think a bit on how to Implement the Preceptor
for Schematron.
Do you have one for Relax-NG working?

Now I'm torn apart.

Jeremy, do you think both methods can be merged somehow?

If for example the BO bean becomes part of a document on the pipeline (like
they usually do),
then another XSD or Schematron that validates the bean as part of the whole
document may be applied.
In which case both Action and Pipeline validation are needed.



Good job Torsten !

Sorry to repeat myself, but would you mind submitting the feedback wizard
requirements which you were thinking about.
It maybe easier if we have a point of reference for our discussion.

Ivelin



>
>
> Later I'd like to see this configurable with a XML descriptor.
> --
> Torsten
>


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