Koshuke,
Thanks for the response. I have released a Schematron validator implementation in Java as part as an effort to improve form handling in Cocoon (xml.apache.org/cocoon) The implementation behaves differently than you may expect, but the end result should be compatible with the skeleton from Rick. I'll forward the original announcement message in another email, so that you can download the source. It should be soon available on the Cocoon CVS repository. My primary goal when working on the implementation was efficiency when Schematron is used for validating JavaBeans and DOM nodes. The use cases requiring validation which I was targeting were html forms, java domain objects, persisted domain objects, web services binding and similar. This is how it works roughly: For a given phase, obtain the list of active patterns If there is no phase specified, obtain all patterns For each active pattern For each rule in a pattern Obtain the set of elements in the source document which satisfy the rule/@context attribute For each element in the set For each assert and rerport for the rule test the element against the @test attribute value if test failed (in case of assert, not failed for report) add the failed assert to the ValidationResult When a JavaBean or DOM node is validated, the result is a tree of patterns, rules, asserts and reports which contains only the asserts and reports from the original schema which were violated during validation. The context element for the rules in the result set though contain the exact location of the failed element. This validation result format allows graceful error recovery and user friendly diagnostics. I understand that JARV is the skeleton which allows for multiple schemas to be plugged in and is targeted more towards validation of automatic document exchange. It doesn't seem to be readily applicable for user interface validation. I guess for simplicity reasons the SAXParseException was chosen for the ErrorHandler interface, but it only reports the document sys id, line and column number. For validation of well formed documents like DOM and JavaBeans, an improved version could be used to report the XPath element location. It doesn't seem like it'll cause performance degradation for the validators in general . Since user friendly diagnostics is critical if XML schemas are to be used for a broader set of problems, do you have thoughts on how JARV should be extended/wrapped with another layer which allows for ValidationResults similar to the one mentioned above? If you're interested, you may look at the recent discussion on the Cocoon-dev list for a proposal submitted by Torsten Curdt for a generic validation layer which can be adapted and wrapped around JARV. http://www.mail-archive.com/cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org/msg13684.html Looking forward to a productive outcome of our discussion. Best regards, Ivelin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kohsuke Kawaguchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ivelin Ivanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 12:09 PM Subject: Re: Cocoon Form binding and validation [was: RE: SchemoX forms] > > > Can Scematron be fit within JARV without loss of features? > > I believe so. I'm not familiar with the status of Java schematron > implementation, but if you give me a pointer to an open-source Java > schematron validator, I'm happy to contribute a wrapper for JARV. > > regards, > ---------------------- > Kohsuke Kawaguchi > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]