Torsten Curdt wrote:

> <snip/>
> 
>> Take your time. I am working on some multi page form handling stuff that
>> uses pipe-aware selection and some other new components, hopefully these
>> things will illustrate a little bit better why I think pipe-aware 
>> selection
>> is an important addition to Cocoon that makes input handling more 
>> elegant.
> 
> 
> 
> please consider looking into the current "precept" stuff in scratchpad 
> instead of just starting another approach to the form handling stuff. 
> any comments welcome!! let's better join forces...

Yes, I'm following your and Ivelins discussion and code development with 
great interest. I would have liked to start to participate in your 
discussion much earlier, unfortunally I had to much other things to do 
and I wanted to concentrate on finish a first version of a pipe-aware 
selector.

I certainly want to join forces in developing form handling stuff. My 
form handling approach is not completly new, I wrote the main stuff a 
year ago, we have used it in our production systems since then, and I 
have discussed some of the concepts on the list a number of times. My 
old code was however not suitable for donation to Cocoon as it depended 
on puting a lot of the control structure in xslt, an aproach that wasn't 
popular at all on the list (righly so I learned the hard way ;) ). 
Anyhow, I'm currently refactoring this stuff, adding some new 
functionality and using the pipe-aware selector for controll structure. 
My main purpose for doing this is to illustrate my ideas and I hoped 
that it could be a usefull contribution to the form handling discussion 
on the list. When I have done this I will focus on how we can combine 
the best parts from the different proposals to something even better :-)
But please understand, I have spended so much time and effort on 
thinking about form handling so that I want to at least share my ideas 
and code before dissmissing my aproach ;)


> Ivelin and me are discussion this off the list currently. mostly via 
> chat - that's faster :-)

Fast, but opaque, please consider sharing at least parts of your 
discussions with the list. One of the really great things about the 
Cocoon-list IMO, is that nearly all important design discussions are 
open so that you can understand what happens and why, even if you don't 
have knowledge, time or interest to participate actively.

/Daniel Fagerstrom




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