On April 30, 2002, David Crossley wrote:

> I too am concerned about the number of hoops that an
> author would need to jump through. I prefer the idea about
> using CVS scratchpad. I see troubles with having loops of
> submit-to-an-editor => editor-review => back-to-author
> and then CVS commit at the very end.

You're right, the cvs is the perfect distribution model for this effort.

> If we do not use CVS during the drafting, then how
> will document authors/editors/QA-testers ever be able
> to see and discuss the documents? I would not be happy
> if the process involved sending email attachments around
> to each other and remembering to Cc, etc.

You're right, email attachments would be a pain for most people. Still, 
if anyone wants me to look at a doc for feedback, before it is 
committed, I will welcome the opportunity. This is already happening, 
BTW. I think some authors might like to test their 
ideas/assumptions/English in a less public way. But of course, this kind 
of interaction is not scalable.

I still think a separate doc-list might work better than cvs. Assuming 
enough people can participate, I think the result is more synergistic 
(the sum is greater than the parts) than a bunch of separate edits to a 
cvs doc. I just worry, based on history, that once a doc is committed to 
cvs, it is gets neglected, especially if the author is no longer in the 
loop.

>
> Also, Diana's step 16 introduces a bottleneck at
> the co-ordinator end.
>> 16. Author submits patches (or revised docs to
>> document coordinator) when updates are necessary.
> This should follow the normal Bugzilla process, whereby
> diffs are submitted with a [PATCH] subject line,
> and any committer who is paying attention picks it
> up and commits it to CVS.

I certainly didn't mean to create a bottleneck. Still, many authors may 
be less advanced than all of you with a range of "easy" tasks you all 
now take for granted. They may not like the bugzilla interface or not 
have time to learn how to generate a patch (what if they only download 
binaries?). I agree we should encourage users to work with bugzilla, but 
if someone wants to send me a document, however imperfect, I will be 
happy to fix it and commit it -- as a user-friendly gesture. Besides, 
once we get a more dynamic site, we'll have so many more options for 
author input (tools like slash-edit).

Diana


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