On Monday, May 20, 2002, at 09:09  AM, Berin Loritsch wrote:

> BTW, if you place the Copyright by Apache Software Foundation tag
> on your documentation (as will be done when published on the site),
> you have effectively donated your copyright to the ASF.

My point: authors aren't placing "copyright by Apache..." text within 
their contribution source files. The Cocoon web site, by default, 
currently adds this copyright tag via transformation. Thus, we should 
make it very clear to authors (by pointing them to a revised 
contrib.xml, etc.) *before* they contribute. I'll go ahead and update 
instructions, templates, and contrib.xml, etc. as appropriate.

Otherwise, without this disclosure, it's *not* reasonable (from a legal 
perspective) for Apache to conclude authors are donating the copyright 
to their works. For example, what if an author contributes a work with 
personal copyright info already on it? We can't just assume the Apache 
copyright overrides it, can we, if we don't clarify copyright details 
ahead of time?

Seems to me if authors want to retain copyright to their works, they 
should publish them elsewhere. We can still provide links to such 
off-site works from the Cocoon web site.

Thanks.

Diana


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