Thanks Ovidiu,

I'll take advantage of your tips.


The value of integrating with JUnit reporting would be that we could 
possibly reuse the reporting code. As I mentioned to Jeff though,
we might consider WebTest's reporting code as well, since it's ant based 
and might be easier to integrate with.
http://webtest.canoo.com/selftest/TestResultOverview.html


Cheers,

Ivelin


Ovidiu Predescu wrote:
> Ivelin,
> 
> I'm not Jeff, but I do have some ideas.
> 
> The Schematron validor would have a correspondent MatcherTest subclass in
> Anteater. You would essentially need to implement the validate() method, in
> which you call the Validator.validate() method. You either return true, if
> Validator.validate() returns null, or you return false, and log the errors
> using the inherited log() method.
> 
> Check out some of the matcher test classes in the
> org/apache/anteater/test/matchers/ directory, like Parameter.java.
> 
> Regarding Junit reporting, I'd still like to understand a bit more what is
> the idea behind this, and what would be the benefits of integrating with it.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ovidiu
> 
> On 6/11/02 9:17 PM, "Ivelin Ivanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Jeff,
>>
>>The org.apache.cocoon.components.validation.Validator
>>
>>interface has the following method:
>>
>>List validate(Object instance)
>>
>>It returns either null, when validation is successfull, or a list of
>>Violation objects, each of which has an XPath address of the bad element
>>and a String with the description of the problem.
>>
>>How do you suggest I integrate this in Anteater?
>>
>>Ideally I would like to integrate Anteater scripts with JUnit reports,
>>so that the list of violations is listed in the place where unit test
>>exceptions are repoported.
>>
>>How is you progress with JUnit reports integration?
>>
>>
>>BTW, JARV implements Relax NG validation.
>>http://iso-relax.sourceforge.net/JARV/
>>
>>
>>Ivelin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Jeff Turner wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Ivelin,
>>>
>>>On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 06:51:09PM -0500, Ivelin Ivanov wrote:
>>>...
>>>
>>>
>>>>The ideas is to use references to schema documents of standard XML languages
>>>>(like Schematron, DTD, XML Schema, Relax NG) for response validation,
>>>>instead of supporting a proprietary grammar.
>>>
>>>
>>>Adding a Schematron validator would be great. It would be a superset of
>>>functionality provided by our existing <xpath> validator. I'd also like
>>>to add a Relax NG validator at some stage.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I suggest that we use the org.apache.cocoon.components.validation package
>>>>which is an independent component in Cocoon's main tree and is used by
>>>>XMLForm.
>>>>
>>>>The Schematron implementation is already available and I think it is quite
>>>>suitable for Anteater, because Schematron is a superset of Anteater's match
>>>>element.
>>>>To be precise it is a superset of the validating use, i.e the cases when
>>>>match is used to assign value to a "result" property. Asigning values within
>>>><match/> to other properties which are used for subsequent requests is a
>>>>separate concern.
>>>
>>>
>>>So..
>>>
>>>Latka has it's Validator interface, consisting of:
>>>
>>>public abstract void validate(Response response) throws ValidationException;
>>>     // throw an exception on validation failure
>>>
>>>Anteater has a MatcherTest abstract class:
>>>
>>>  public void setObjectModel(HashMap objectModel);
>>>  public abstract boolean validate() throws BuildException;
>>>  public boolean getResult();
>>>
>>>And Cocoon has another Validator interface:
>>>
>>>  public abstract void validate(Response response) throws
>>>ValidationException;
>>>  public void setProperty(java.lang.String property, java.lang.Object value);
>>>  public java.lang.Object getProperty(java.lang.String property);
>>>
>>>Here are the validators currently available:
>>>
>>>ByteLengthValidator (Latka)
>>>CookieValidator (Latka, Anteater)
>>>ContentEquals (compare contents vs. file) (Latka, Anteater)
>>>MaxRequestTimeValidator (Latka)
>>>RegexpValidator (Latka, Anteater, Webtest)
>>>StatusCodeValidator (Latka, Anteater)
>>>XPathValidator (Latka, Anteater)
>>>SchematronValidator (Cocoon)
>>>
>>>It would be good if we could come up with a common API that everyone
>>>could implement. Eg, adopt Latka or Cocoon's Request/Response
>>>abstraction, plus Anteater/Cocoon's ability to pass an 'object model'
>>>(aka Avalon Context). Plus I'd like some way to record what's been done,
>>>for later reporting.
>>>
>>>But anyway, that's for down the road. There are few enough validators
>>>currently that it's less effort just to modify the code for each testing
>>>framework.
>>>
>>>
>>><snip schematron goodness/>
>>>
>>>Schematron looks very cool. Another even easier-to-use possibility would
>>>be Examplotron (http://examplotron.org/).
>>>
>>><rant>
>>>We live in dark days where the majority of Apache is unthinkingly
>>>adopting XML Schema, despite it's inferiority, simply because it's from
>>>the W3C. Kimbro Staken said it best:
>>>http://radio.weblogs.com/0100213/2002/06/06.html#a392
>>></rant>
>>>
>>>>The violations can be then nicely integrated in the JUnit reporting
>>>>package.
>>>
>>>
>>>I have JUnit formatting integration minimally working here, will clean
>>>up, check in and announce it tomorrow probably.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>If there are enough votes I'll contribute some of the work myself.
>>>>Help would be certainly appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>+1 :)
>>>
>>>If any Cocoon developers are interested, and want to help or just lurk,
>>>the relevant list to join is:
>>>
>>>http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aft-devel
>>>
>>>And the project page is:
>>>
>>>http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/aft/
>>>
>>>
>>>--Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-= Ivelin =-
>>>
> 
> 



-- 

-= Ivelin =-


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