> From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Currently Cocoon is 1.5 MB in size. That is a huge jar.
(OT) You ought to work for BEA for a while - their jar is 38Mb ;) > In Cocoon there > are the core files, the servlet compatibility files, the CLI > compatibility files, CLI: 25432 bytes Servlet: 36325 bytes Do you *really* feel that these are candidates for separation? (I don't feel comfortable imagining myriads (>5) of small (~10-30Kb) jars) > and hundreds of components. Possible candidates here are: POI serializer: ~160Kb XSP: ~130Kb The rest is either really small or belongs to the core. > The fact that we as a community are thriving is excellent. However, as > a > project, Cocoon is feeling quite heavy. Esp. since there are features > in > Cocoon that not everyone needs. I proposed this a while back, but I am > going to propose it again. > > We should split Cocoon into core development and component development > efforts, much like Avalon does with Framework and Excalibur. That will > allow the components to be packaged in jars that serve a similar > purpose. > Things like all the database related components should be in their own > mini-project. I do not have anything against database stuff in separate jar. > Each mini-project has its own documentation, and its own > life. It also allows each mini-project to determine whether it is ready > for prime-time or not. At every release, the core cocoon does not have > to worry about which components it has to move into scratchpad. Also > each set of components has a little focused mini-community so the docs > get upgraded in a focused manner. > > I have already seen the benefits of how this works in Excalibur--now > that we are going through systematically. > > When I am generating a site, I don't want to have to include the portal > components or the DB and auth components. Those don't need to be there > for the site. > > Keep in mind that the mini-projects are all part of the cocoon umbrella, > and they foster functioning communities within the larger Cocoon > community, not detract from it. What do you think about Cocoon applications subprojects, proposed here recently? Vadim > > "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety > deserve neither liberty nor safety." > - Benjamin Franklin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
