On Monday, October 28, 2002, at 08:43 pm, Tony Collen wrote:
One awkward issue for accessibility is that this code uses fixed size areas so if you expand the text it gets cropped. Unfortunately, as soon as you start using variable width areas you hit lots of browser incompatibilities with CSS support. Today I am actually converting our site back to tables to provide better accessibility!Steven Noels wrote:For the most part, the page degrades gracefully on NS 4.7n on Win2k. There's a bit of cruft that has some of the navbar images in it, but that might be able to get hidden from browsers that don't do CSS.Miles Elam wrote:But then again, this is all sophostry and rhetoric without something to look at or back it up with. So, getting to my point, I got bored today and made a mockup of http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/ in XHTML 1.0 Strict.
http://cocoon.iguanacharlie.com/
I hope this illustrates my point of view. Sure, it could use some tweaking (I just whipped it out), but it validates, looks pretty good for braille readers, looks pretty good for good browsers, and any browser should be able to get the content (including Mosaic holdouts who can't handle tables). Wasn't this the point of XHTML? Wasn't this the point of CSS?
The nice part about using CSS is that the content can appear in any order in the source page, but appear in a different place thanks to CSS-P. That way, for browsers that don't support CSS (Old Netscape, Lynx), text-based navigation/copyright/etc can appear lower on the page, letting them get to the content faster. In fancier browsers, the navigational text can appear anywhere on the page.
Nice work, I must admit. Lean and mean code - but we should check on older browsers - I'll be trying this with my rusty NS 4.07 on Linux.
Stuart.
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