Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Hmmm, I'll tell you, I get mixed feelings on this article.Interesting, tackles the subject from very pragmatic angles IMHO: http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2002/1018.cocoon.htmlI like the conclusion: "This, to me, is a decisive issue: Linux and Cocoon it is." (first mentioned by ReinhardPoetz at http://outerthought.net/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=CocoonCompared)
First, it seems to me the guy compares apples and oranges. Take a look at the software table:
Programming language: XMLSpy vs. mod_perl/mod_php
What is he talking about? Obviously he doesn't even have a clue on how Cocoon works. In fact, the comparison is between
Database integration: Microsoft Biztalk Server vs. Cocoon
If comparing XMLSpy with PHP looks weird, comparing BizTalk with Cocoon looks completely ackward to me. It is like comparing a computer and tunneling microscope because they both need eletricity to run.
Both Biztalk and Cocoon use XML and SAX, therefore they compete. What the hell is he talking about?
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Many people ask me the question: what is the commercial competitor of Cocoon? I usually say I don't go around chasing for commercial competitors because we don't compete, but the real question is: are there *ANY* commercial competitors out there? are there any xml-based frameworks that get the big picture?
My impression is that cocoon created a market niche and provided the best of breek solution at no cost. How can you beat that? How can you beat a development community which is millions of dollars a year worth of design, development, bugfixing, testing and user feedback?
And still we are not a top level project.
You know what I think? The most direct competitor of Cocoon is, drum roll, Microsoft .NET NG!
What is that? well, I think Microsoft doesn't really get it now, but it is starting to catch up quickly. Some .NET next generation will have weapons to compete with Cocoon (unlike the J2EE which will remain mostly as they are)
But I think it will take years for them to catch up and *understand* there is a market and Cocoon has 100% market share and this market is where the money is! (medium to large sites and web-apps probably count for 90% of total money investiments on the web)
By that time, we'll have already implemented our block user-library and we'll have enough development inertia with our satellite projects of blocks, components and solutions to stand even the biggest marketing engine on the planet (microsoft's in fact)
But my suggestion is: let's keep outselves under the radar for now. We are not, by far, ready to stand *that* pressure and the amount of FUD that will be thrown out to us.
This is why I think that article is, in fact, harming us. Please, let's avoid sticking it into the press/news section of our documentation.
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Stefano Mazzocchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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