> Forth, the ASF just established a fund-raising commitee. I talked
> with the ASF conference committee and they say that it's entirely
> possible that Apache partecipates officially in the production of
> project-related real-life events. Whether this means *money* is yet
> to be estimated, also depending on the money raised by the
> fund-raising commitee. Anyway, FYI.
I remember asking about potential sponsorship of the ASF for the
GetTogether. It was just an <aside/> in a mail to Brian (attached) cc-ed on the reorg list.
Related to that, I sent a mail regarding EurApacheCon to Ken some time
ago (attached too, sorry about the tone of that message).
What I'm trying to say is that this is a good idea. OTOH, I'm assured that we should be very careful about mixed interests: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-users&m=103780260804583&w=2
Ken: please don't take the hyperlinked message above as critique. It is just one of the remarks I got from the GetTogether attendees: they really like it to be a GetTogether of users & developers, rather than a conference where sponsors automagically acquire the right for speaking slots. I think an exhibition, with enough time to visit that exhibition, is kind-of a nice balance between people being able to showcase their stuff, while not 'commercially polluting' the content exchange (and we made some errors against it during this first GetTogether ourselves).
But I'll quit ranting for now ;-)
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--- Begin Message ---Brian Behlendorf wrote:Thanks for the interesting insights.Let me anticipate the main issues people would have if we considered using SourceCast for the reorg of apache.org.
Now that we are talking about infrastructure anyhow, and because others also fear that SC will be an all-inclusive/encompassing thing for us, please let me explain what I have been working on in the past few months. Most of it is described in some detail at http://outerthought.net/cocoondev.org.html
<context>I'm heavily swamped ATM organizing some unofficial first Apache Cocoon GetTogether (http://outerthought.org/cocoon/gettogether/) and I hope to announce cocoondev.org at that time to a larger community.</context>
<aside>This is a free event, solely sponsored by a couple of companies - and we are falling from the break-even curve pretty fast since we already have 50+ attendees - any idea whether Apache would want to sponsor this?</aside>
Who I am in relationship with Apache Cocoon:
- a freshly voted committer
- I'm providing the infrastructure for the Cocoon Documentation Wiki, which has proven to be quite popular (http://outerthought.net/wiki/)
- and there is the W-I-P for cocoondev.org as mentioned above
So basically what we are up to:
We want to provide the Cocoon community at large with an infrastructure providing them the ability to showcase their (open source) development on top of Cocoon, without having them to spend a lot of money on server colocation and paying Linux/Java sysadmins. So that's basically who we are: a couple of people sharing the financial & administrative burden to provide some SourceForge/SourceCast-like infrastructure for Cocoon-based projects (specifically: Linux/Java/CVS/qmail/ezmlm/Tomcat/Jira).
I need to run right now, but I'd be very happy if these kind of community-owned/-operated somehow-ASF-related infrastructure projects are also taken into consideration for the infrastructure reorg. I will try to come up with some suggestions myself in the next few weeks. Much of what we are doing is still W-I-P right now, but since hardware and bandwidth have already been acquired, I want it to be used of course.
I just wanted to warn you that there is more to some of the Apache projects than what is operated now using http://www.apache.org/dev/machines.html, partly because of the current lack of support for such things by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (no offense taken - you guys can't do everything!).
Bye for now,
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--- Begin Message --- Hi Ken,
just saw your n-th mentioning of the ApacheCon ;-)
Funny thing is I'm organizing at the same time an Apache Cocoon event here in Belgium, which proves to be quite succesful, bearing in mind the very low profile marketing I've been doing.
I've got 40 registered attendees so far, coming from all over Europe, and a nice international speakers list. All is available from http://outerthought.org/cocoon/gettogether/
Not bad for a one-man effort, I'd say ;-)
Now why am I saying all this?
I was at the EurApacheCon in London some years ago, and found it good fun. If for some reason you guys would consider doing another EurApacheCon and you happen to need some locals for helping out, you could always get in touch with me.
Bye for now,
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