On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

>
> Bruno Dumon wrote:
> > On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 10:44, Steven Noels wrote:
> >
> >>Christian Haul wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>On 12.Dec.2002 -- 10:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Anyway, whatever the outcome I look forward to this new development as it
> >>>>certainly is something that is needed badly. Perhaps Gianugo and Nicola
> >>>>could provide some details on what they are thinking of?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>What we were discussing is a possibility to debug the pipeline. For
> >>>this we have currently the LogTransformer. One could put this between
> >>>several transformation steps and see what happened.
> >>
> >>sounds very similar to captor which has been posted once as a patch by
> >>Bruno: http://outerthought.net/captor.html
> >
> > well, there's a difference though. Captor is very useful in itself for
> > people wanting to understand pipelines, though its completely un-useful
> > if you're writing your own SAX-transformer which (during development)
> > might be quite buggy and generate invalid SAX-events. But for many users
> > out there captor can be extremely useful.
>
> Our idea is based on the profiling component in Cocoon CVS, so yes, we
> have seen it.

I have included the concept the 'Captor' in the profiling pipelines for
some time ago, but only for Cocoon 2.1.(Thanks to Bruno)

> Anyway, how that tool works is flawed, and will not necessarily work
> with all pipelines (this came out in the Stammtisch), since they might
> rely on the events being processed through the whole pipeline instead of
> being cached.

Do you mean the 'Captor' component or the profiling component?

To allow debuging on a server, you should only need to 'instrumentable'
the profiling component, I think.

My 2 cents, Stephan Michels.


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