On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 17:04, Torsten Curdt wrote: > Geoff Howard wrote: > > Very interesting - do you envision it covering client/server side > > validation?
Server side primarely, but not excluding client side. > > Just want to make sure: had anyone had a look into precept? > Maybe at least the examples? I'll take a look at it. > > It's not even close to be more than POC. But the vision was > to build forms with your favorite schema editing tool for the > model definiton. I assume you're talking about XML schema languages here (WXS, Relax NG, ...)? I find this approach rather complex and error-prone for data-entry forms. XML Schema languages tend to be mainly strong in checking the structure of XML documents, and not so much in checking the values of individual text nodes. I know XML Schemas have a datatype library, but you can't expect users (using different locales) to enter their numbers in IEEE format or enter dates like "2003-04-01". But maybe I'm misunderstanding something here... > And then use a XML editor or IDE for the > views. One of our interns wrote a POC swing application > to drag-and-drop the controls into the views. > And I still have a table renderer transformer on my machine > that calculates a table layout for any given controls by > it's x and y coordinates. > > It also already provides the hooks for client+server side > validation. Just NYI. > > Especially database mapping is still an issue. And it has > no flow support yet. Database mapping and flow seem like seperate issues for me, so that's not really a problem. > But maybe we can steel at least some > ideas for something new?! Yep, I'll certainly take a more detailed look into it. -- Bruno Dumon http://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]