on 6/15/03 3:53 PM Christopher Oliver wrote: > Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > > >>Ovidiu wrote the FOM with "let's cover everything" mindset. He restated >>the fact that he likes this approach better on his last mail to this list. >> >>The problem I have with this approach is that *NO* part of Cocoon has >>been designed like this, but rather with more XP-like approaches of >>"start small and grow with needs, questioning them everytime". > > Sorry, I don't agree with your characterization of Ovidiu's approach. > Anyway, I guess you're welcome do what you like, but I for one would > like to see more _actual_ use of the current flowscript implementation > before jumping to the conclusion that a new design is going to make a > significant difference.
Cocoon has been designed with incremental darwinistic design. Which means: add a feature *ONLY* if absolutely necessary and backed up with *real* use-case scenarios which cannot be done elegantly in any other way. You say that we need more _actual_ use of the flowscript to understand what are the best practices: I CANNOT AGREE MORE! But my approach at design is orthogonal to yours and Ovidiu's: you give full access and expect to deprecate things that are harmful, I give access only to those things that are needed today and plan to add things at user request, provided a community discussion and a real-life reason for it. So, more than redesigning the FOM (and stepping on people's egos in doing so), what I want to change is the "design approach" to the FOM which is what really concerns me. Ricardo and I identified in our proposal a *MINIMAL* set of methods that make up the FOM. Minimal means that we could not remove anything without considering a meaningful case where we would need it. Will it be complete? of course not, we expect it to be in need for being extended. But extending a contract is never a problem, reducing it is, and big time so. But I'm starting to realize that this moves sounds like a "coup d'etat" and I don't want to make it look like so. So I'll start a vote on this to see how the community feels about it because last thing I want to do is to make it look like this is a personal crusade. -- Stefano.
