I am not sure I see why XSP is nessisary for a content management system. I
actually am desiging a content management system. I just decieded to use
JSP for the bean support. This could be a wrong assumtion, but I see XSP as
basicly just another scripting language. One could use python, php, or even
perl. Why is the inital file being XML nesissary(BTW with Tomcat 4 the JSP
is in XML format)? Maybe I should ask the question again in a differnet
way. Why should one use XSP instead of another language? As long as XML is
output does it really matter?
On a side note, I think Cocoon2 rocks! While I don't have the luxury of
having a web development team, being able to seaparate my form from my
content speeds up development 2 fold. Thanks, and keep up the good work.
Thanks,
Anthony Mills
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frans Thamura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 1:24 AM
Subject: Re: JSP v. XSP (was Re: performance inquiry)
> Are you ever create a contentn management system using XML???
>
> You will see how great XSP is it? and how powerfull is a XML system.
>
> Frans Thamura
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, June 21, 2001 2:41 AM
> Subject: JSP v. XSP (was Re: performance inquiry)
>
>
> >I am not interested in time right now, atleast not ms. Why else would I
> >want to use XSP? I used XSPs for awhile, but I prefer JSP for a few
> reason,
> >and right now one doesn't work. I will consider migrating, as most of my
> >work is done in classes and XSLT. The first is:
> ><jsp:useBean id="login" class="com.pyramid6.util.WebLogin"
scope="session"
> >/>
> ><jsp:setProperty name="login" property="*" />
> >
> >This makes it real easy and nice to support sessions and read the request
> >parameters.
> >
> >The second one, which doesn't work in beta 1 is: <jsp:directive.page
> >errorPage="error.html" />
> >
> >This will catch exceptions real easy, and display a nice page for me.
> >
> >Now the only benifit I saw with XSP over JSP is with databases. I am not
> >planning on using a database, so this point was lost on me.
> >
> >JSP is an industry standard right now. While I am sure XSP is gaining
> >support, I am tring to stick to established standards. I am not real
> >concerned with this, as my files are only about 20 lines long, and I will
> >have about five of them.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Anthony Mills
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 12:07 PM
> >Subject: Re: performance inquiry
> >
> >
> >> Anthony Mills wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > I am developing a web site using JSP and Cocoon 2. I am running two
> >tomcat
> >> > web servers (3.2 and 4.0beta) on the same box at the same time. I
have
> >a
> >> > Pentium III 450 with 192mb ram. I have noticed a few things. First,
> it
> >> > takes a little while to start, about 20 seconds. A page take about 5
> >> > seconds to load the first time. After that, I am more limited by my
> >> > connection (128kbps up) than I am by my web pages. The pages come
back
> >> > within seconds. I have JSPs being run through Cocoon 2; I assume
that
> >xsp
> >> > would have similar speeds. Keep in mind this is not a scientific
> >> > measurement, just what I "notice". Also, both web server are running
> >about
> >> > 34mb, with little interaction so far. One thing to consider when
> >deploying
> >> > your app. You can precompiled your jsp/xsp pages. This would speed
> >things
> >> > up considerably.
> >>
> >>
> >> The first access is from the Sitemap compiling. It and the XSP pages
can
> >be
> >> precompiled. Cocoon takes roughly 15-20 seconds to start up mainly
> >because of
> >> the number of managed resources it is controlling, and because of the
> >compiled
> >> sitemap. If you make Cocoon load on startup then most of the
> >initialization
> >> will have been done before the first request.
> >>
> >> 5 seconds is about right for an XSP page.
> >>
> >> Keep in mind that XSP is a better match than JSP for Cocoon--there is
> less
> >> translation and parsing that has to happen. By doing that you will
shave
> >off
> >> a few milliseconds per request (10-50ms depending on size of
> information).
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Hope this helps,
> >> >
> >> > Anthony Mills
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "java guru" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 8:33 AM
> >> > Subject: performance inquiry
> >> >
> >> > > Hi.,
> >> > > I am begining of developing a
> >> > > standalone/networked/web application. But need to
> >> > > decide what to use. C2 attracted be 'coz of many cool
> >> > > features i might use in the future..
> >> > >
> >> > > But performance issues scares me.... I need advice..
> >> > >
> >> > > The application need to run standalone or networked
> >> > > like web app...Considering this..
> >> > >
> >> > > 1. Is it better to do with servlet and jsp: In this
> >> > > case i have problem with connection pooling and o/r
> >> > > mapping to database
> >> > >
> >> > > 2. Is it better to use xml stuff with c2: In this i
> >> > > fear for performance. I fear it might demand high end
> >> > > configuration user systems compared to no1..
> >> > >
> >> > > Please advice
> >> > > thanks
> >> > >
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