The meatter is that the cell phones in Japan understand HTML they are not WAP phones. So you need to use HTML serializer.
And those PDAs like iPaq? They have a stripped version of IE which also understands HTML. So the magic is to provide the pages in native encoding in HTML and test the user agnet and make small changes to result HTML depending on client device. so, that means you do not need a new serizalizer - the existing HTML one will do. with best wishes Alexander Kachanov -----Original Message----- From: BeardedDragon.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 ~q 2001 s. 13:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: I don't want UTF, I want native encoding I'm still kind of new to Cocoon, but isn't that what the serializer is for? I thought it was the serializer that is forcing the encoding tag. If you were outputting to a WAP device, you wouldn't use the default HTML serializer. Perhaps the solution to the problem is to create a serializer that outputs for the standards needed. Although I forget this often myself, but Cocoon is largely a Framework. It still need programmers to build the tools that support the framework. Again... I'm kind of new to Cocoon (1 or 2)... but that's what I got from reading the docs on Cocoon2. -Alex On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:04:59 +0900, Alex Kachanov wrote: > Ok let's consider this issue. > > The Cocoon is designed to provide multiple document > formats from a single document. If default "and fixed" > encoding is Unicode then how would PDA and cell phones > be able to read those documents? > > I don't know any cell phone in Japan that understands > Unicode, it's Shift_JIS and only Shift_JIS. Neither do WAP-phones. > Does any one know if Palm or iPaq supports Unicode? > I'm sure they do not. Any Braile browsers? > Any voice browsers? Text-browsers? None of them. > > That's the point. However, there is no problem to > change the encoding in Cocoon (1 or 2) as I mentioned in > previous letter. > > > > with best wishes > Alexander Kachanov > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Klaasen (TeleRelay) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 19 HHHH 2001 H. 22:29 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: I don't want UTF, I want native encoding > > > C2 is not "derived" from C1, it is a refactoring. > This means that almost no code is reused, because C2 is built again from > the design level onward. > > As for "not needing Unicode": I thought Unicode was intended to solve > just this kind of problems (encoding problems, that is. Americans > forgetting there do live people outside America. Europeans forgetting > there do live people outside America ;) ) > > > tomK > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alex Kachanov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: maandag 19 november 2001 10:44 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: I don't want UTF, I want native encoding > > > > > > I read that this problem can be solved in Cocoon 1 (Cocoon 1.7.8) > > but why this problem is not solved in Cocoon 2 wich derives > > from Cocoon > > 1? > > > > Is there any solution at all? I do not need this Unicode. > > > > with best wishes > > Alexander Kachanov > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 19 HHHH 2001 H. 18:43 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: I don't want UTF, I want native encoding > > > > > > Alex Kachanov,-ú÷+E > > > > @@They fogot that Japan have moved to earth for many many years. and > > China > > > > ======= 2001-11-19 17:09:00 -H++H++--|+E======= > > > > >Hello! > > > > > >I've created an xml file with Shift_JIS encoding > > >But as a result I get the html file with UTF8 encoding. > > > > > >I don't want this, I want to have HTML file in native > > >Shift_JIS encoding. > > > > > >Is it possible to solve this issue? > > > > > >And why do I get SAXParserException when I declare > > >encoding="win-1251" in xml file? > > > > > >with best wishes > > >Alexander Kachanov > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >Please check that your question has not already been answered in the > > >FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html> > > > > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > > > > +- > > +ńŁĄ > > > > -)+=++ > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 2001-11-19 > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Please check that your question has not already been answered in the > > FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Please check that your question has not already been answered in the > FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Please check that your question has not already been answered in the > FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ================================================== Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.beardeddragon.org/ ================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html> To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html> To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>