OK. Then how could I implement dynamically "look-and-feel" based on user
credentials (customer-id, user_id) ? I see only one possible way: inserting
action for each XSL transformation in each pipeline... That approach makes
sitemap look even more ugly...

Comments are follows,
Alex.
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From: "giacomo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: Look-and-feel approach with views


> On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Alexander Smirnoff wrote:
>
> > OK. I've got it.
> >
> > Well, is it possible to trigger the view from inside sitemap? What about
> > Passing parameters?
> >
> > I think the idea of breaking pipeline and continuing it from another
> > "resource"-like pipeline ("view") from labeled predefined point is very
> > powerful. Imagine having the same long chain of transformations through
> > group or even all of pipelines in the sitemap! From my point of view it
> > makes sitemap more unreadable. From the other side, if you have some
> > "resource"-like view which could be processed from any pipeline and
being
> > "returned" to the point of entry will make readability of sitemap more
> > easy...
> >
> > Something like that:
> > <!-- declaration -->
> > <map:chain name="look-feel">
> >     <!-- action "get-user-skin" :-) defines path to the source of the
> > "skin" -->
> >     <map:act type="get-user-skin">
> >         <map:transform src="{srcpath}/{src}"/>
> >     </map:act>
> >     <map:transform src="default/{src}"/>
> > </map:chain>
> >
> > <!-- from pipline -->
> > <map:match pattern="...">
> >     <map:generate src="welcome.xml"/>
> >     <map:call-chain name="look-feel">
> >         <map:parameter name="src" value="welcome.xsl"/>
> >     </map:call-chain>
> >     <map:serialize/>
> > </map:match>
> >
> > This is just a random thought. Sorry for being naive if this is the
> > case...Probably there are some workaround which I don't know, - I'll be
glad
> > to comprehend.
>
> I can't see what your approach is good for. Views aren't made for
> skinning. They are for producing view in the sense of schema, meta data,
> links etc. but not for green or red. If you like to use it that way, yes,
> your sitemap might look ugly then.

So what would be more elegant approach ? Use actions in each transformation
point in sitemap?

>
> Your proposed enhancement is only giving another programmers view
> into the sitemap which isn't what we initially wanted and is what
> we like to get fixed in the future.

The only proposition I made is to manipulate sitemap in orthogonal fashion
like views do. Why not?
I do understand...

What are the tradeoffs?

>
> Giacomo
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alex.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "giacomo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: Look-and-feel approach with views
> >
> >
> > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Alexander Smirnoff wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm using 2.0rc1, but even if I put label="xsltran" into
<generator...>
> > > > declaration this doesnt work either...
> > > >
> > > > I feel that I misundersatnd the concept. It seems, for example, in
> > webapp
> > > > sitemap.xconf (in HEAD branch) the view declaration like:
> > > >
> > > > <map:view name="links" from-position="last">
> > > >    <map:serialize type="links"/>
> > > > </map:view>
> > > >
> > > > never executes... Otherwise it supposed to be executed for every
pipline
> > > > after last component in pipline... So I'm really confused...
> > >
> > > If you don't request that view it will never be executed :) use a
> > >
> > >     http://localhost:8080/cocoon/welcome?cocoon-view=links
> > >
> > > and you'll get all the links in the welcome page as response.
> > >
> > > Giacomo
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Alex.
> > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 23 Nov 2001, Alexander Smirnoff wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm trying to use Views for setting look and feel based on
specific
> > user
> > > > > > logged on the web site. So far I cannot even make very basic
view
> > > > working:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     <map:views>
> > > > > >         <map:view from-label="xsltran" name="xsltran">
> > > > > >             <map:transform src="stylesheets/xsl/welcome.xsl"/>
> > > > > >             <map:serialize/>
> > > > > >         </map:view>
> > > > > >     </map:views>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     <map:pipelines>
> > > > > >         <map:pipeline>
> > > > > >             <map:match pattern="site/*">
> > > > > >                   ...
> > > > > >                   <map:match pattern="site/workframe">
> > > > > >                         <map:label name="xsltran">
> > > > > >                             <map:generate
> > > > src="content/xml/welcome.xml"/>
> > > > > >                         </map:label>
> > > > > >                         <map:transform
> > > > src="stylesheets/xsl/welcome1.xsl"/>
> > > > > >                         <map:serialize/>
> > > > > >                   </map:match>
> > > > > >                   ...
> > > > > >             </map:match>
> > > > > >         </map:pipeline>
> > > > > >     <map:pipelines>
> > > > >
> > > > > What version are you using? In the current 2.0 and HEAD branches
of
> > the
> > > > > CVS there isn't a map:label anymore. So you need to specify it
this
> > way:
> > > > >
> > > > >          <map:match pattern="site/workframe">
> > > > >            <map:generate src="content/xml/welcome.xml"
> > label"xsltran"/>
> > > > >            <map:transform src="stylesheets/xsl/welcome1.xsl"/>
> > > > >            <map:serialize/>
> > > > >          </map:match>
> > > > >
> > > > > Giacomo
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > this falls through "welcome1.xsl", but not through "welcome.xsl"
> > which
> > > > > > suppose to be called from the "xsltran" view...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What is my mistake?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Alexander Smirnoff
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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