Was Directory service mentioned ? If not than http://openldap.org.
Artur... > -----Original Message----- > From: Hochsteger Andreas /INFO-MA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:32 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: AW: sexy open source > > > I don't know, if you're interested in that, but I've got some additions to > your suggestions: > > * CRM/ERP System: > Compiere (http://www.compiere.org/) > * XML Editor for Content Editing: > Xopus 2 (http://www.xopus.org/) > * Content Management System: > Wyona (http://www.wyona.org/) > * SVG Editing: > Kontour (KDE KOffice Application, http://www.koffice.org/kontour/) > * eBusiness Integration > Open3 Projects and Components (http://www.open3.org/) > * Enterprise Network Management: > OpenNMS (http://www.opennms.org/) > * Single-Sign-On: > Liberty Alliance Standard (no products yet?) > * Central User Management: ? > * Workflow Management: > OpenFlow (http://www.openflow.it/EN/) > Open Business Engine (http://www.openbusinessengine.org/) > Open For Business (http://www.ofbiz.org/) > * Instant Messaging: > Jabber (http://www.jabber.org/) > * Shop/eCommerce > Open For Business (http://www.ofbiz.org/) > > I could imagine even more business areas, where a complete open source based > integration would be like heaven. > Please give comments, I'm interesting in your suggestions. > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. August 2002 14:53 > > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Betreff: sexy open source > > > > > > Hi cocooners, > > Now that I have your attention, I would like to > > discuss the ideal of non-compromised development of > > full-blown, stable, scallable and manageable > > applications with open-source only and how far one > > could get to fulfill this. It is probably little OT on > > this list, but I think a bunch of very open-minded and > > progressive folks is here, so I hope I could get some > > discussion going. > > I think many of you have reached some status quo which > > could be of great service to all the newcomers. > > Nevertheless, everybody is probably tired of yet > > another bugs, yet another unanswered questions, yet > > another everyday technology-related problems and there > > is no end to this. But I have a faith that there is > > some solution that could be achieved with open source > > and it waits to be discovered. > > It starts with what one wants to achieve. For me, it > > is secure content-centric multi-user roles web portal, > > with professional design, able to serve without > > interruption even by ongoing changes and high user > > traffic. But I think the framework I'd like to propose > > here may be universal enough to be equally worth also > > for many other means. > > If you got so far with me, I'd like to start being > > concrete: > > 1) Operating system > > Proposal: Linux > > Remarks: One could discuss the distributions or other > > Unix derivates here, but I think it's irrelevant for > > further points. > > 2) Programming language > > Proposal: pure Java 1.3.1x > > Remarks: I know many of you are trying 1.4 out, but it > > may still take some time to be able to be used for > > production sites. Moreover, many open source > > technologies were still not ported to 1.4. Correct me > > if I'm wrong. > > 3) Application framework > > Proposal: JBoss 3.x > > Remarks: This is worth discussion, as many of you use > > iPlanet or don't use any J2EE or related technologies > > at all. I think JBoss is good for achieving > > scallability for the site. What concrete parts of > > JBoss are involved, is very OT here. > > 4) Business Logic Persistence > > Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service > > Remarks: I personally think it is most evolved > > open-source database now. The problem is, almost > > nobody uses it, the JDBC driver is beta etc. Next good > > candidate could be PostgreSQL - with more user > > support, so maybe better solution. Any ideas? > > 5) Web container > > Proposal: Jetty as JBoss service > > Remarks: I know Tomcat is more used, but Jetty is > > easier to be integrated into JBoss and both offer > > similar if not same functionality. This is a point I > > would like to discuss further. > > 6) Content Persistence > > Proposal: stand-alone XIndice > > Remarks: This component should be used only for > > content without business logic, outside J2EE, for > > example for simple static content editing templates > > and external content syndicate subscription. Simply > > for everything that's too light to be served by deep > > application logic. Did anybody use it already? That's > > a question. > > 7) Content Framework > > Proposal: Cocoon, what else :) > > Remarks: The task of Cocoon is to separate Logic from > > Design, what it should be good at. I want to get more > > detailed here: Starting with structured XSP, > > xincluding or transforming (what is better?) parts of > > final site together, using taglib logicsheets for > > access to business logic that is delegated to J2EE > > (did anybody here got it working?), other taglib for > > content persistence and yet other for reused content > > elements. The XSP should contain as little Java as > > possible, all hrefs should be good organized with > > sitemap and XForm could be used for user inputs (are > > we so far?). XSP should somehow incorporate JAAS from > > JBoss for user authorisation to access the documents > > (anybody tried this?) The result of multiple > > transformations is then complete site as XML, that is > > further processed using XSLT to incorporate the design > > and graphics and serialized to appropriate end format. > > If possible, all the vector design elements should be > > dynamically created using SVG (anybody?), page should > > be somehow cacheable for better response times (???) > > and the final result should be optimized for several > > types of client (is DELI of use here?) and/or > > serialized to PDF (do I expect too much?). The > > workflow by creating the content can be following: > > After initial discussion between involved parties, > > dummy working XSP/XSL is/are created, possibly reusing > > already available static elements from taglibs. Then, > > database/J2EE developers work on filling it with > > propper dynamic data, content writers type in > > internationalized static texts and designers are > > parallel creating more mature XSL, icons, SVG and thin > > client customizations. Working adjustments are posted > > to versioning system without injuring established > > interfaces to other team members. Final version > > emerges and the team could proceed to other page. > > Seems like heaven to me, but is probably hell to > > achieve. Or is similar optimized team workflow > > available anywhere in this world? > > 8) Web frontend > > Proposal: Apache > > Remarks: This is only for security reasons - the task > > of Apache is just to forward the requests. I think > > more of you are using it, true? > > 9) Suporting Tools > > XML editor: ??? (I use several or write the XML from > > scratch) > > XSL editor: ??? (Did not find good free one) > > SVG editor: ??? (any free one available?) > > Versioning: CVS (makes some trouble for JBoss) > > Dev IDE: Eclicpse (I use JBuilder now but want to > > switch) > > Sitemap editor: Pollo (is there anything else?) > > Project Management: PHPMyProject (or other web-based > > solution?) > > Database Management: ibMyAdmin (depending on DB, of > > course) > > Project Modeling: Poseidon CE (used to visualize the > > business proccess, generating DB structure, EJB and > > documentation from XMI is still not mature enough for > > serious use in my eyes) > > anything else you use? > > Now, I got about 80% of above configuration working, > > but have severe problems with integrating the rest. > > I'm eager to share my experience with anybody who is > > interested and even more eager to get the rest or > > another worthy combination to work together. Many > > times I feel like reinventing the wheel, or some > > dreaded little problem of incompatibility makes me to > > start again with other versions of components. I hope > > I could find anybody to go through this hell with me > > and then share the results for the community. There > > are probably other people trying to achieve similar > > environments, I would be happy to know about them and > > their progress. > > OK, I'd better stop now, this post got too long for > > occupied open-source developer eyes. > > Thank you in advance, > > Feel free to mail me personally ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > if you think this list is not the propper place for > > such a discussion, > > Peter. > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > Gesendet von Yahoo! 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