Please do. Wiki is great, but I am not sure in which section would this one article go. Please let me know where it went.
Thank you, Ivelin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reinhard Poetz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:02 AM Subject: RE: XMLForms vs Struts Ivelin, As this is an often discussed question: Do you mind adding it to the CocoonWiki? If no I could do it for you ... Regards, Reinhard > -----Original Message----- > From: Ivelin Ivanov [mailto:ivelin@;apache.org] > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:52 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: XMLForms vs Struts > > > > I hope this will not make things even more confusing for you, > but here is my view: > > Struts is 3 parts: > 1) An URL map, matching URLs to Actions. > Everything you can do with struts-config.xml (Struts), you can do with > sitemap.xmap (Cocoon). > > 2) Custom JSP tags for rendering HTML, like i18n, access to JavaBean > properties and others. Cocoon's set of transformers is a superset > of Strut's > visual tags. > > 3) Form handling. > Automated binding between HTML input fields and JavaBeans. > Cocoon's XMLForm does that and much more. It not only provides > the binding, > but it does it in a browser independent way. Struts is only designed to > handle automatically HTML input. > > > For fairness sake, I will tell you that over the last 2 years I have used > Struts successfully in big enterprise projects. It is a good and sound > technology when you are only interested to support the major HTML browsers > and you are not concerned with other interfaces to your application like > WML, VXML, Web Services, etc. > > > My recommendation is, if you are in a hurry and you don't want to invest > time in learning a new technology, go Struts. > > If you plan to build a lot of web applications in the future, you > must learn > Cocoon. It will add a very powerful weapon to your software tools arsenal. > You don't have to use it all the time, but when things start to look > dangerously complex, you will find it to be a life saver. > > > > Best, > > Ivelin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 3:48 AM > Subject: Re: XMLForms vs Struts > > > Hy; > > First let me tell you: I like the idea of merging cocoon and struts, > because i see both technologies to be helpfull also in conjunction... > > Omar Tazi wrote: > > If you like the MVC aspect in Struts and like the flexibility provided > > by XML/XSLT, and don't like the limitations that come with JSPs, check > > out our Framework. It's called OXF (Open XML Framework). OXF is the > > result of our combined passion for Cocoon and Struts/J2EE and our > > involvement in huge enterprise projects. It will dramatically help you > > in your tasks (listed below). Good luck! > > > > But i am also a bit confused. I'm following the discussons in this > mailing list for about a week now and this is already the second > mentioning of a product/component (whatever) that claims to be an > on top of cocoon development. But when i enter the pages mentioned > above, it is very hard to find the backpointers to cocoon as the > base component... > > Despite that all this stuff sounds very interesting, but i get more > and more unshure how to proceed. Some questions rise in my mind: > > 1.) Why are all such nice and nifty add ons developed all outside > of cocoon ? > 2.) When i move to such an add on component, how can i enshure > to keep up with the releases of cocoon (taking adavantage > of the enhancements done there)? > 3.) Why can't i find pointers to these add ons from the cocoon pages ? > > There is sooo many good software around the world and cocoon for me is one > of the finest. Why does not all this effort take place at the heart but > is cluttered around in several loosely coupled or even uncoupled > add on projects ??? > > And now my final question (to come back to the technical part): > Why is it so complicated to use struts and cocoon in parallel? > As far as i understand the concepts of cocoon, i can embed JSP's > in it's workflow, and if a jsp itself uses struts, why not??? > Although i haven't tried yet, for me these things seem to be > coexisting without problems ... > > Any enlightments on these points are happily welcome... > best regards, Hussayn > > -- > Dr. Hussayn Dabbous > SAXESS Software Design GmbH > Neuenhöfer Allee 125 > 50935 Köln > Telefon: +49-221-56011-0 > Fax: +49-221-56011-20 > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Please check that your question has not already been answered in the > FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Please check that your question has not already been answered in the > FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html> To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html> To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
