No, I was talking about Microsoft Office XP not 2k; it does have native XML support. For example "You can save Microsoft Excel 2002 spreadsheets and Microsoft Access 2002 database tables, queries, and views as XML."[1].

Please not that I'm *not* an M$ fun ;-)

[1] http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnofftalk/html/office08022001.asp

Cheers,

Manos

Robert Simmons wrote:
Ya, I know MSoffice can save into HTML. I want it to save into XML.

-- Robert

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From: "Emmanuil Batsis (Manos)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: newbies documentation - yet another wiki?



Star/OpenOffice as well as the new MSOffice.

Then again, WYSIWYG HTML Editors -> Tidy works great too.

Manos

Robert Simmons wrote:

What I don't get is why not put the new documentation in cocoon
distribution?

Everything else is in there: *smirk* Cocoon is built for web publishing,
we

could conspire to write volumes right in the product. Which reminds me,
anyone know a word processor that saves primarily in XML and is good?

-- Robert

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From: "Bertrand Delacretaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: newbies documentation - yet another wiki?




Hi Hussayn,

I mostly agree with your point of view, except on the "separate wiki"
thing. (And by the way, thanks a lot for your "less talking, more doing"
approach!)

What worries me *a lot* with starting yet another documentation site is
the dispersion of resources - wouldn't it be much more efficient to have
you, Derek and possibly others joing the (mythical) Cocoon docs team
with the aim of creating these newbies docs?

See also http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=CocoonDocsPlan, I think
your concept can fit nicely into this.

I'm convinced that it is possible to create the "newbies competence
center" that you mention *inside* the existing wiki - a well-designed
start page and navigation should help newbies find their way.

Maybe this needs some improvements to the existing wiki system, to help
newbies find pages that are targeted for them, namely:

a) Being able to search the wiki for "NCC pages only" or "everything" so
that newbies are not distracted by deep technical discussions.

b) Being able to clearly label pages as being part of the NCC, different
color, icons or something.

This might well be possible with JSPwiki, maybe by writing some kind of
extension? We need to ask Steven or the JSPWiki folks if you think this
is worth studying.

What do you think?
Join the party, or throw yet another one? :-)

-Bertrand


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