Hello Derek,

yes, that's obviously misleading. But I'm not related to this page. After the mention on this list last week I only asked them to be listed on Cocoon's Livesites page and Jim Costello sent me this mail below. I added the link in the CVS and forwarded this mail, especially because of the impressive figures.
Now the report: It's the typical Cocoon 1.x handling using processing instructions. But I don't know if they wrote their own component handling processing instructions or if the report is outdated or simlpy wrong. The X-Cocoon header clearly states that they use Cocoon 2.0.4, but he also wrote (in the mail below) that they still have Cocoon 1.x in use for a part of their homepage.
I'm cc-ing Jim Costello, so he can read and clarify your objections.



Derek Hohls wrote:

I was browsing the white paper referred to; in
it mentions that XML files are "connected" to XSL files
by placing links to the stylesheets at the top of the XML
files.  It then goes on to say:

"This significantly simplifies content management because it enables you to make changes to only one content file and make no changes to the stylesheets because the content is totally separated from the presentation.

Figure 8 illustrates how these XML/XSL transformations occur within the Cocoon publishing framework. "

This is a little misleading and underplays the true value
added by Cocoon in completely separating content from
presentation - the "connections" happen in the sitemap;
there is no need to specify  stylesheets in your XML files;
as soon as you do this you are implicitly mixing content
and presentation.

If you are able, I think some changes would help
clarify the situation.


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We had it already on the list last week, here is the official announcement. I have added the link in the CVS.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: Contact  Us Form
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:41:18 -0400
From: Jim Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

We would be glad to be listed on your powered by Cocoon page. Our base url is http://www.ctg.albany.edu. The entire site is done in Cocoon 2, using standard XML/XSL with a docbook schema for our XML documents. The site currently has close to 4000 pages produced by approximately 300 xml/xsl files. We expect to be producing about 10,000 pages by the end of the year with no increase in the number of xml/xsl files. The main content of our site are the reports, guides and studies that our Center produces. We needed a sensible way to manage these documents, control the source file and produce a variety of formats HTML, PDFs, multiple locations on the site. XML and Cocoon has been the answer. The site has only been live for about 1 month, but we've already seen a doubling of our traffic and it's much easier to maintain and find our information on the site now. It's all Cocoon and XML/XSL; no database involvement.

We also have a white paper on the site at http://www.ctg.albany.edu/publications/reports/xml that explains our
rationale and approach to using xml and cocoon.

One other component of the site at http://www2.ctg.albany.edu/egovfirststop/ uses Cocoon 1 and mySQL database to power an information repository application. We will be upgrading this application to Cocoon 2.

Jim Costello
Web Application Developer
Center for Technology in Govenment
www.ctg.albany.edu [EMAIL PROTECTED] (518) 442-3812

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