> On Jan 26, 2018, at 8:14 AM, Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 09:15:43AM -0600, Ian Stapleton Cordasco wrote:
> 
>> This sounds like an attempt to be humorous at the expense of people
>> who have actually been physically violated. That isn't acceptable on
>> this list and is not tolerated by any mailing list hosted on
>> python.org. Please refrain from this in the future.
> 
> Ian, you are gate-keeping and telling the poster how he or she should 
> feel. Please don't do that, it is a hostile and aggressive thing to do. 
> You have no right to tell the OP that he or she *shouldn't* feel 
> violated by an experience which he clearly experienced as frustrating 
> and painful. Who are you to say that (s)he didn't, or shouldn't, have 
> felt violated?

All,

Jumping to conclusions about people's intents will continue along an 
unproductive path to improve the documentation experience.

Let's try to keep this discussion on topic. Giving everyone the benefit of the 
doubt of being well intentioned, I would appreciate keeping any future 
discussion on the topic of the documentation search.

Here's my thoughts for each of you as we move forward:

- Thank you Quantum Mechanic for reporting the issue.
- Thank you Ian for your empathy and respect for the community.
- Thank you Steven for stressing that we "should" be a welcoming community to 
new and existing contributors.

I just returned from PyCascades where Brett Cannon gave a great talk on open 
source community: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiWfqMbJ3_8 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiWfqMbJ3_8>

Thank you,

Carol Willing


> 
> And before you dismiss me (as I expect your initial reaction will be) 
> both my wife and I are "people who have actually been physically 
> violated". Your defence of our feelings, while well-intentioned, is 
> neither needed nor wanted. I'm sure you thought you were doing the right 
> thing, but we don't need you to act as gate-keeper telling us when we 
> are being made fun of. We can decide for ourselves whether to interpret 
> the OP's words as being at our expense or a genuine heartfelt sense of 
> anguish at a hostile user-experience.
> 
> Of course the OP's experience with Google and ReadTheDocs is not 
> objectively as awful as what my wife has been through, or even for that 
> matter me, but we shouldn't dismiss the mental pain of an ugly and 
> frustrating user experience as any less real just because it didn't 
> involve an actual knife being held to somebody's throat.
> 
> Please don't be so hostile to a newcomer who has taken the time to 
> report a problem on this list and did nothing to deserve the given 
> reaction. At the *very least*, we as a community ought to give newcomers 
> the benefit of the doubt and interpret the OP's comment as nothing more 
> than hyperbole rather than assuming the worst ("...at the expense 
> of...").
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> Steve
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