I agree with the suggestion of trying a university. Or even a high school, as 
they may have more experience teaching people who haven't self-selected into IT 
courses or at least have lower levels of prior technical experience.

I'd suggest not asking for a "forensic cybersecurity expert speaker". That's 
like asking for a surgeon when you're trying to remove a splinter: a) you 
really don't need that level of expertise and b) even if they can do it they'll 
have a terrible bedside manner.  The "forensic cybersecurity expert speaker" 
will be used to training people who already have a solid understanding of IT 
and just want to upskill in this specialty - they won't have a clue how to talk 
to the average community member who's fuzzy on the difference between email and 
the web.

What you want to do is say "We want someone to [talk for an hour / give a 
hands-on workshop / answer questions]. The audience will be [how many] members 
of the community with [level of expertise - eg will they be people who are 
already confident with somethings or people who struggle to use a mouse?] At 
the end of the session we want them to be able to [learning outcome - eg 
identify and deal appropriately with phishing and other email and social media 
scams]."

There should be more discussion when you've been connected with someone but 
that should help get you started. That way you don't get someone who turns up 
and talks about forensic cybersecurity at a level that goes waaay over 
everyone's heads and doesn't answer the problems you're trying to deal with 
anyway.

Deborah

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I certainly respect that.

What other orgs or path to a forensic cybersecurity expert speaker would you 
suggest?

Thank you.

Charles.

Date:    Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:49:39 +0000
From:    "Hammer, Erich F" <er...@albany.edu>
Subject: Re: forensic cyber security certifying organizations

You wouldn't expect to call up the NBA and be able to send personal email to 
any one of the players.

I had the privilege of taking a SANS course about 20 years ago.  300 people @ 
$3500 each, 4.5 days @ 8 hrs and one instructor (and I never witnessed any 
support staff).  These instructors are some of the most knowledgeable people in 
the world, in high demand by well-funded organizations and governments, and as 
with any expert, they have to always research and explore new areas of 
interest.  Not only are they incredibly busy, but I would expect that they are 
high-value targets for spear fishing themselves, so the SANS organization isn't 
going to just put anyone in contact with them.

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