See interlaced notes below, Don..
 
P. Michael McCulley, Librarian II / Information & Technology
San Diego Public Library, 820 E Street, CA 92101-4806
Phone: 619-238-6678 / FAX: 619-238-6639
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/23/2007 4:29 PM >>>

If I understand you correctly, you want to allow "instant
registration" so that a user can register and immediately use online
databases, without having to step foot in a library?  Further, this is
something you anticipate for the future, and not something you want
_just_ for migration?

>> Yes, exactly.. we have the option of doing it now with DRA Classic, if we 
>> can without too much heavy lifting.. but, we also can just work on the 
>> Unicorn upgrade for this, deploying it as a new eCard option when we 
>> hopefully launch that on/about August 2, 2007..

Assuming I'm understanding your correctly, I have a couple ideas.  All
in all, it depends really on how you authenticate access to your
databases (SIP/NCIP or just dummy 'Does this meet the rules for a
valid number'?-type authentication).  I'm going to assume that it's
the second (or, perhaps if you use number 1 you can also check number
2 if number 1 comes back with a 'soft' failure [user not registered...
denial would be caused by delinquency/expiration/etc]).

>> Authentication varies here, like I imagine most libraries.. we do have 
>> EZProxy, and I was looking again yesterday at Useful Utilities for possible 
>> notions to use.. right now, card number and PIN failure are pretty dead-end 
>> for users, except to call in the problem and "we" fix it manually in the 
>> system (renew their card, change the PIN, etc.)..

My first thought would be to create a "dummy" registration system.  A
person fills out a form online.  The contents of this form are
e-mailed to a library.  The system generates a number that meets the
validation criteria for the databases, but would not be valid for the
PAC or the like.  For example, if your libraries use a patron barcode
scheme 2BBBBXXXXXXXXC (where B is a branch ID number, XXXXXXXX is the
patrons' "serial number" at that particular branch and C is a
mathematically-calculated checkdigit), your "electronically-generated"
barcode numbers could use a branch ID of something you'd be unlikely
to utilize in the system (such as 9999, so a sample barcode may be
29999000000014).

>> This may indeed work, and I'm thinking to host this dummy system off the 
>> server with EZProxy running on it.. our schema for the card numbers is 
>> 01336xxxxxxxxx, but I don't know if we can allow either DRA Classic or 
>> Unicorn to accept other faux numbering schemes, perhaps.. good ideas!

A second option may be to frequently create a number of "dummy" patron
records with real barcode numbers.  These barcode numbers will then be
placed in a database on your web site.  A patron will register using a
web form, and when he/she clicks "submit" the application will be
e-mailed to the library staff.  He will then get his real card number
and PIN and can use this for requesting items in the PAC/etc.  He
would then be instructed to come to the library to get his actual
card.  The staff would take the e-mail application and update the
"dummy" registration to reflect his actual data.

>> We envisioned these temp cards to be upgradable to permanent (real) cards, 
>> by any visit to any library.. the temp record would just be updated manually 
>> with the holder's information, and a "real" barcode would be added (via 
>> scan) to the record, replacing and overwriting any "temp" number.. you can 
>> see the way this was done on the Sirsi Horizon system by Boston 
>> Public/Metro-Boston Library Network here..
http://catalog.mbln.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp 
 
>> I like how the user/patron gets to pick their own PIN (personal 
>> identification number)..

A third option would be to not utilize numbers at all.  If you can add
an authentication to your database provider to support access from a
referer page, you could create a temporary-use form on your web site.
A user would have to fill this out, and upon completion he can access
your databases (because the referer would be your web site).  A
downside is not all database vendors support this type of
"authentication", and many firewalls are beginning to block
HTTP_REFERER.
 
>> Interesting notion.. but, with the variations in the some 80-odd databases 
>> here, this would be a more problematic route to go down..

As a final note, if Patron Self Registration from the OPAC is a
feature you may find useful (for databases or otherwise), file an
enhancement request with SIRSI.  Quite a number of systems' DO support
a self-registration mechanism, and chances are it's probably on their
"to-do list" anyway... But, if people start asking for it, the
priority will rise!
 
>> I'm just getting access to the Sirsi Support Forums, and yes, I intended to 
>> ask the members there about ideas for this, and recommend via channels they 
>> officially try to do this as a system enhancement.. maybe it will shoot up 
>> the priority list ;)..

Good luck in your migration, and I hope this helps!
--Don McMorris

>> Incredibly helpful, Don.. I owe you beer+ :)..
 
Best,
Michael

On 4/23/07, Michael McCulley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We have the older Sirsi DRA Classic system here at SDPL, and while we are 
> migrating soon to Unicorn from SirsiDynix, we already can see something we're 
> interested in doing that seems "beyond" Unicorn's capabilities.
>
> Has anyone seen or heard of coding/scripts or hacks/workarounds to provide 
> eCards (temporary library cards) via Unicorn? We'd like to issue temporary 
> cards via the Unicorn interface or our public Web site for "immediate" access 
> to the databases, say good for 30-60 days, and, later, they can be upgraded 
> at any of our library to a full-access library card. As an aside, we'll have 
> the hosted version of Unicorn, so we won't have the system/files on any local 
> servers we can access.
>
> We've noticed with interest that some Horizon systems, III, CARL, etc. can do 
> this, but thus far, I can't see anyone with Unicorn that has done this. Any 
> type of library (academic or public) is a good source, if you've heard of 
> something. Please drop me a note via e-mail, or post here.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Michael
>
>
> P. Michael McCulley, Librarian II / Information & Technology
> San Diego Public Library, 820 E Street, CA 92101-4806
> Phone: 619-238-6678 / FAX: 619-238-6639
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>

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