I can't see why III would want to have anything to do with this conference.  I 
think most of us who attend the conference are open-source types, and are 
trying to do things beyond what we could do with the vendors (who are 
risk-averse and profit-oriented.)  If III wants to be truly innovative, they 
should send a technical person (not a sales person) to this conference.


Martin 


-----Original Message-----
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Cary 
Gordon
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 9:37 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals

I could say you're a dreamer, but you're not the only one.

The reality is that III sees their APIs as gold mines that they can
market to a captive audience. For example, their patron API -- a
simple web interface to patron records -- probably cost them much less
to develop than they get for a single license. Don't look for them to
actually get off of that anytime soon.

Koha might motivate them to bump there FUD generating budget, but
that's about it.

Cary

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Esme Cowles <escow...@ucsd.edu> wrote:
> After seeing some of the cool things people can do with other ILS's and how 
> negative developers are about III, there's always the chance they might 
> decide to open up a bit more and engage with code4lib types (we can always 
> dream).
>
> And if that doesn't work, maybe the Ian Walls' talk (Becoming Truly 
> Innovative: Migrating from Millennium to Koha) will motivate them...
>
> -Esme
> --
> Esme Cowles <escow...@ucsd.edu>
>
> "They extend copyrights perpetually. They don't get how that in itself is a
>  form of theft." -- Lawrence Lessig, Free Culture
>
> On Mar 4, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Jill Ellern wrote:
>
>> We tried to get some of the ILS's interested...with little success.  But how 
>> knows...I did some heavy promotion to III this year...(despite the many 
>> "--"s, she promised to talk to headquarters) so perhaps they might help some 
>> next year...
>>
>> Jill
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Paul 
>> Joseph
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:56 AM
>> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
>>
>> No need to be concerned about the vendors: they're the same suspects who
>> sponsored C4L10.
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Ya'aqov Ziso <z...@rowan.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> .... also, I can assure you that to help keep registration fees low we'll
>>> be
>>> leaning on our vendors ...
>>> =========
>>> Who would be these vendors? Seems CODE4LIB (bringing in creative, leading
>>> edge, OpenSource ideas where ILS have monolithically reigned) are the bad
>>> dream of ILS vendors. WorldCat DeveNet/Research may make an exception, but
>>> will it be $$$$$ufficient?
>>> Ya¹aqov
>>>
>



-- 
Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company
http://chillco.com

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