Actually, that's a standard XML interface with a stylesheet rendering the html. The "static" message is probably coming out of my database configuration.
Ralph -----Original Message----- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Jonathan Rochkind Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 12:19 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat Terminologies Yeah, the statement that it's a static copy from 2006 would have stopped me in my tracks if I had somehow happened accross the page, which I probably wouldn't have, but now I've bookmarked it so I might find it again -- but will probably forget that it's REALLY up to date even though it says 2006 on it. Nice catch Karen. Karen, that looks to me like an HTML front-end for an SRU service, I bet it's got an SRU api. Which one of these days I'll get around to figuring out how to write code for. ________________________________________ From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle [li...@kcoyle.net] Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:29 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat Terminologies Quoting "LeVan,Ralph" <le...@oclc.org>: > I hate to muddy the waters, but I can't resist here. > > Research also exposes a copy of the LC NAF at > http://alcme.oclc.org/srw/search/lcnaf > > It gets updated every Tuesday night. Unfortunately, that page states right up front: "A static copy of LC's Name Authority File from February of 2006" That might confuse visitors. Maybe a quick revision is in order? :-) Also, API access? kc > > This is something I've been maintaining for years and is what > Identities points at when you ask to see the NAF record associated > with an Identities record. > > This particular service has none of the linked-data-type bells and > whistles I'm putting into VIAF and Identities, but easily could, if > there was interest. I believe I've made the indexing on it > consistent with what I do in Identities. > > Looking at the configuration file for the load of this database, I > am omitting records with 100$k, 100$t, 100$v, 100$x or any 130 > fields. I'm sure Ya'aqov (or other similarly expert Authority > Librarian) could tell you why I am omitting them, because I can't > off the top of my head. > > This service is actually running as a long established model of how > similar services should run in Research. While it is not running on > a machine operated by our production staff, it is automatically > monitored by them, they have restart procedures in places when the > service becomes unresponsive and problems are escalated by email > when the restart fails to fix the problem. (Those emails come to me > and where they get treated appropriately.) > > Let me know if there are questions about any of this. > > Ralph > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of >> Ya'aqov Ziso >> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 3:29 PM >> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat Terminologies >> >> Jonathan, thank you, in full accord. Yes, the crux of the matter is Names >> (NAF being the more expensive library subscription >> and the one not available for free like http://id.loc.gov >> >> At http://orlabs.oclc.org/Identities/ I searched Œclapton, eric¹ and wonder: >> >> * are all WorldCat+NAF 49 retrieved headings there helpful? do we need in >> the list Œclayton, cecile¹ (etc.) >> * Names that haven¹t made it into an authority record are definitely >> helpful, but can we suggest a way to sort and rank them more usefully (for >> the user) on the page? >> >> Your thoughts? >> Ya¹aqov >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 3/19/10 2:35 PM, "Jonathan Rochkind" <rochk...@jhu.edu> wrote: >> >> > I don't think the inclusion of non-NAF headings in Identities is >> a flaw, it's >> > a benefit to the purpose of Identities not to be held back by the somewhat >> > glacial pace of change in NAF. But you're right, the right tool >> for the job, >> > I don't know that any of the existing OCLC "free" (or included >> with other OCLC >> > membership/services) services are the right tool to replace any existing >> > purchased authorities tools or sources. It depends on what you're >> using them >> > for, of course. I agree that the brochure statement was potentially >> > misleading, but these (Identities, Terminologies, Research >> Terminologies) are >> > still very interesting and useful services. >> > ________________________________________ >> > From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of >> Ya'aqov Ziso >> > [z...@rowan.edu] >> > Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 2:14 PM >> > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat Terminologies >> > >> > Karen, >> > Seems like pulling-teeth was worth it. Thank you for these updates and for >> > making them available for all interested. >> > Essentially, given your 6 months latency compared to >> http://id.loc.gov) and >> > the inclusion of NAF and non-NAF headings in Identities, >> > both Terminologies and Identities are not yet at a level of databases that >> > libraries can go for, forgoing what they currently need to buy, load, and >> > maintain locally. >> > Your withdrawal of the brochure statement is justified and >> apology accepted. >> > Ya¹aqov >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On 3/19/10 1:35 PM, "Karen Coombs" <coom...@oclc.org> wrote: >> > >> >> > Ya¹aqov, >> >> > >> >> > Identities is not based on a name authority file it is based >> on name data >> >> in >> >> > WorldCat. These two are not the same thing. Names within >> Identities come >> >> from >> >> > several different fields within the WorldCat MARC records >> including 1xx, >> >> 6xx, >> >> > and 7xx fields. This is why Identities contains names which >> have not made >> >> > their way into a name authority file >> >> > (http://www.worldcat.org/identities/np-levan,%20ralph%20r). >> Also Identities >> >> > doesn¹t contain authority records, it contains Identity >> records. Identity >> >> > records contain different information from Authority records. >> >> > >> >> > There are name authority projects going on within OCLC Research. The >> most >> >> > active is VIAF http://www.viaf.org/ . This service contains >> name authority >> >> > information from several national libraries, not just Library >> of Congress >> >> and >> >> > right now not all of NACO has been loaded, only differentiate personal >> >> names. >> >> > More information on the VIAF project is available at >> >> > http://www.oclc.org/research/activities/viaf/ >> >> > >> >> > Regarding up to dateness of Terminologies as I said in my previous >> message >> a >> >> > schedule for updates was posted to the Developer Network >> listserv and the >> >> > Developer Network wiki >> >> > (http://worldcat.org/devnet/wiki/Terminologies_Updates). >> Andrew Houghton >> >> >> has >> >> > also informed you that information about how recently a given >> terminology >> >> is >> >> > located on the Experimental Terminologies page ( >> >> > http://tspilot.oclc.org/resources/index.html). >> >> > >> >> > Karen > -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet