Spare-time projects definitely get respect. You might also look into
low-paying or volunteer freelance web development work for an
organization with data management challenges. Schools, small
businesses, and non-profits of all stripes can use your help, and in
the process you'll pick up some skills.

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Ceci Land <cl...@library.msstate.edu> wrote:
> I like this.  Maybe it's because it's what I was already thinking about 
> doing.  I have 3 project ideas twirling around in my head at the moment.  I 
> can't do them at work, but perhaps the systems department could give me a 
> dataset to play around with in my spare time.  I already have a good dataset 
> for one of the projects that I harvested via OAI-PMH.
>
> Do these spare-time projects get any respect from the "real world" when it 
> comes time to apply for a job? ....particularly if you focus on really making 
> it as polished as possible (within the limitations of a non-work 
> environment)?  I remember building my own darkroom as a teenager and doing 
> B&W and color slide and print processing. (yes, I still love the smell of D76 
> and stop bath.  I can bring up the smell purely from memory :)  ).  I did 
> manage to work for a while in photography because of my original personal 
> investment of time and energy into it as a hobby.  I'm just concerned that 
> the things may not work that way any more.  Life was not only slower paced 
> back then, but having an exact skill match wasn't required to get a foot in 
> the door.   Plus, I'm no Mozart so it's not likely that I'll come up with 
> something uber creative or so nifty that it's used by a community at large.  
> But I do good technical work.  I tinker...I make things "go".
>
> Thanks for the advice.  I'm going to start playing with the projects I have 
> in mind.  One is already done as a JSP, but I think I'll convert it to 
> something else and "clean up" the compromises I had to make to get it done in 
> a limited time.
>
> Ceci
>
>
>  >>> On 5/6/2011 at 2:31 PM, in message 
> <BANLkTi=jdvtmgs42dlmhe5+fqnn55kv...@mail.gmail.com>, Devon 
> <dec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My answer to this question changes every time it gets asked.
>
> These days, my thinking is that focusing on skills/tools is backwards.
> Instead, focus on a problems and solutions. Pick something you want to
> do, then do it. Figure it all out on the way. If you don't know where
> to start, build and deploy a simple website. Try a solution. If it
> doesn't work, try a different solution. Keep trying. Don't be afraid
> to toss all your work away and start over. Make the website more
> complex as you go. Add a database. Switch the whole thing to jQuery.
> Then switch to something else. Just keep going.
>
> /dev
>
> --
> Devon Smith
> Consulting Software Engineer
> OCLC Research
> http://www.oclc.org/research/people/smith.htm
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Ceci Land <cl...@library.msstate.edu> wrote:
>> Hello everyone.  The recent thread asking people what they would like to 
>> learn if they had the time brought another question to my mind.  If you were 
>> looking to get into "this side" of the profession, what would you recommend 
>> focusing on?
>>
>> IOW, suppose you were a current MLIS graduate student (that's me) who has a 
>> techy sort of inclination.  But also assume that your current job as 
>> paraprofessional staff involves minimal computer skills, no programming or 
>> scripting and this situation will not ever change.  Imagine that you've 
>> taken every programming and database class you can fit into your schedule, 
>> but you realize that course work will only take you slightly beyond a 
>> beginner level even if you make A's.  (in an IS based program, not CS.  I 
>> would have preferred the CS route, but work could not accommodate the 
>> class/lab time during the days)
>>
>> How would you choose to develop your skills from "baby" level to something 
>> useful to the profession?  Will developing projects on your personal time 
>> and hosting them yourself be enough to get noticed when they day comes that 
>> you graduate with your shiny new diploma? What core skills would you choose 
>> to focus on?  Would you give up a secure job with benefits to find an 
>> internship that could really challenge your programming, web development 
>> etc. skills?
>>
>> I see many people on this list with very strong skills, but in the job 
>> world, I don't see many 2nd string/entry level jobs that would allow someone 
>> to hone their skills to the level I often see here.  I've been thinking that 
>> I should focus on further developing my abilities in: HTML/CSS of course, 
>> XML, XSLT, PHP, and MySQL (because they're all readily available for someone 
>> to play with despite not being employed in a systems department).  It seems 
>> that anything I can learn about metadata transformations/crosswalks and RDF 
>> would be useful too.  I also find some classification theories very 
>> compelling (ok, I admit that colon classification really got my attention in 
>> my first MLIS class) and found myself drawn to potentially being interested 
>> in taxonomies and controlled vocabulary.  I know nothing about Drupal, but I 
>> wonder if I should include in my smorgasbord.  How much is too much and 
>> where you y'all recommend I put my energy?
>>
>> Any advice is greatly appreciated.  The more specific the better.  :)
>> Thx!
>>
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