Thanks all. I'm consulting an attorney colleague who is also a
librarian working in copyright and digitization. I'll let you know what
I learn...
Michael Lindsey
UC Berkeley Law Library
On 4/25/2012 11:54 AM, Roy Tennant wrote:
A number of years back I pitched a project at UC Berkeley, of all
places, to do a "scan on the fly" project to scan tables of contents
and indexes of books returned from circulation. I even prototyped a
system for the indexing and display of the resulting pages, with
filenames derived from the barcode number and automatic links into the
catalog record for the item. The management at the time, in their
infinite wisdom, decided to put their resources elsewhere.
I still believe that such a project could provide a good deal of value
and would be defensible under current copyright law, but then I am
completely unqualified to even have an opinion about it.
Roy
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Jonathan Rochkind<[email protected]> wrote:
ILL at most institutions does not keep scanned copies for future patrons,
not even in a database that's not "publically searchable."
To do so would be of highly questionable legality with regard to copyright.
As would be this plan, alas.
You can easily violate copyright just sharing within the (eg) university
community, or even just among librarians, it does not need to be 'publicly
searchable' to violate copyright.
On 4/25/2012 2:20 PM, Ross Singer wrote:
I am not sure this would be as much of a problem as long as it's not a
publicly searchable database (that is, people can't browse scans are there
and choose them). Of course, this restriction makes it difficult to
envision how the UI would work, but something triggered by an exact match
should work.
Then again, I am not a lawyer.
-Ross.
On Apr 25, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Andrew Shuping wrote:
What type of pages from books are you talking about? Like reference
materials, histories, biographies, fiction? Because while my first
thought is that would be an interesting idea, my immediate second
thought is that publishers and authors would never allow it to happen
because of Copyright. Even in ILL land we can't keep scanned pages
for a long period of time due to copyright restrictions.
Also this sounds a lot like the Google Books project...
Andrew Shuping
Interlibrary Loan/Emerging Technologies& Services Librarian
Jack Tarver Library
Robert Frost - "In three words I can sum up everything I've learned
about life: it goes on."
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Michael Lindsey
<[email protected]> wrote:
A colleague posed an interesting idea: patrons scan book pages to
deliver to
themselves by email, flash drive, etc.
What if the scans didn't disappear from memory, but went into a
repository
so the next patron looking for that passage didn't have to jockey the
flatbed scanner?
* Patron scans library barcode at the scanner
* The system says, "I have these pages available in cache."
o Patron's project overlaps with the cache and saves time in the
scanning, or
o Patron needs different pages, scans them and contributes to the
cache
Now imagine a consortium of some sort where when the patron scans the
barcode, the system takes a hop via the ISBN number in the record to
reach
out to a cache developed between a number of libraries.
I know there are a number of cases where this may not apply, like
loose-leaf
publications in binders that get updated, etc. And I'm sure there are
discussions around how to handle copyright, fair use, etc.
Do we as a community already have a similar endeavor in place?
Michael Lindsey
UC Berkeley Law Library
