Code4lib appears to have no rules about who can and cannot form a group.
Therefore, if there are some folks who want a group, they should create
that group. If it's successful, it's successful. If not, it'll fade away
like so many start-up groups.
I'm astonished at the resistance to the formation of a group on the part
of people who also insist that there are no rules about forming groups.
I don't recall that any other proposal to set up a group has met this
kind of resistance. In fact, we were recently reminded that if you want
something done in c4l you should just do it. There is no need to ask
permission. So, do it.
I think the only open question is: where? e.g. what platform?
kc
On 12/7/12 9:25 AM, Salazar, Christina wrote:
Hi Bohyun,
Thank you so much for raising this again. I'm still interested in such a group.
I found the terminology "separate but equal" (that some on this list chose to
use as a reason not to do this) offensive; it was not at all the spirit that I'd
originally proposed and no one had suggested either separate OR equal other than
detractors. In fact I said that anyone would be welcome. I completely agree with what
you're saying about there not being any reason why we women couldn't do both (I think
we're versatile that way). I'm pretty sure I vaguely recall (maybe) there being some
(similar) concerns about the local c4ls and I would say it's very similar - no one says
that just because a person finds say, Appalachia.c4l useful, it detracts from the global
c4l.
If I can find other women who are willing to work together as a women in
library technology/coder/whatever support group, I will work to make something
like this happen. As someone pointed out, we don't need blessing from anyone.
If you will be there, I will look for you at the conference and we can discuss
further. If there are other women who are interested, go us.
Christina Salazar
Systems Librarian
John Spoor Broome Library
California State University, Channel Islands
805/437-3198
p.s. Usual disclaimer about these opinions being my own and not reflecting
those of my workplace/employers.
-----Original Message-----
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bohyun
Kim
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 8:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [CODE4LIB] Question abt the code4libwomen idea
Hi all,
I might upset some people with this, but I wanted to bring up this question.
First, let me say that I think it is a terrific idea to have a code4lib
learning group with or without a mentoring program.
But from what I read from the listserv, it seemed to me that there were
interests in a space for women, NOT as a separate group from code4lib BUT more
as just a small support and discussion group for just women, INSIDE the c4l
community not OUTSIDE of it. (Like an IG inside LITA or something like that...).
I just wanted to know if there are still women in code4lib who are interested
in this idea because gender-specific issues won't be addressed by a code4lib
learning group. (If this is the case, I am still interested in participating,
and I already set up #code4libwomen IRC channel.) Or, do we think that the
initial needs that led to the talk of code4libwomen will be sufficiently met by
having a learning group instead? Personally, I don't see why we can have both
code4libwomen and code4liblearn inside code4lib if there are enough people who
think that these would make code4lib more useful to them and if this makes
code4lib serve more diverse interests of their members.
So I am looking forward to hearing form other women in c4l on this! :)
Cheers,
~Bohyun
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