I¹m jumping in very late in the game here, but I would love to be involved
in this discussion (I¹ll even join LITA!). Here at UofT, we¹ve done some
work in this area that could be worth sharing. We¹re in the process of
creating guidelines for many of the topics mentioned below, so it would be
great to learn from others, collaborate, and share.

I like the idea of the UX IG; it¹s flexible and collegial, but still
weighty enough to lend the content credibility.

Lisa Gayhart | Digital Communications Services Librarian| University of
Toronto Libraries | Information Technology Services |
lisa.gayh...@utoronto.ca| 416-946-0959





On 2014-09-30, 3:19 PM, "Joshua Welker" <wel...@ucmo.edu> wrote:

>Bohyun,
>
>That sounds like it could be a great fit.
>
>There would be two final products for what I have in mind:
>
>1. A wiki site (ideally attached to an ALA-affiliated domain name) where
>we
>can collaborate and break all this down at the topic level. This is the
>source that would be used by the boots-on-the-ground librarians who are
>actually doing UX work and need practical information. It would be
>continually updated. The content would be curated, and there would be a
>very
>basic approval process for creating new editor accounts.
>
>2. An annually-revised document (again, attached to an ALA-affiliated
>domain
>name) that compiles everything from the wiki together in a format that can
>easily be presented to other librarians and administrators. In my
>experience, a bureaucratically approved document carries a lot more weight
>in libraries than a website, at least in academic libraries.
>
>Topics that would be addressed:
>
>1. Accessibility
>2. Layout patterns
>3. Typography and readability
>4. Best practices for specific library web platforms
>5. Recommendations for how libraries should implement the guidelines at a
>management level (non-technical)
>
>Josh Welker
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
>Kim,
>Bohyun
>Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:42 PM
>To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library community web standards (was: LibGuides
>v2 -
>Templates and Nav)
>
>Jumping into this discussion late. Just wanted to let everyone know that
>LITA UX IG would be more than happy to provide a venue for this type of
>discussion since it would fit the interest of UX IG perfectly. (I am
>chairing the IG this year; ping me if that sounds interesting and if there
>is anything LITA UX IG can help.) LITA IGs are super flexible.
>
>Cheers,
>Bohyun
>
>
>--
>Bohyun Kim, MA, MSLIS
>Associate Director for Library Applications and Knowledge Systems
>University
>of Maryland, Baltimore Health Sciences and Human Services Library
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
>Megan O'Neill Kudzia
>Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:24 PM
>To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library community web standards (was: LibGuides
>v2 -
>Templates and Nav)
>
>I've been following with interest, and I think some really important
>points
>are coming out here.
>
>John, what you said about Tomcat vs. Jetty really resonated with me -
>maybe
>this is *yet another* place where we could split this thread, but I think
>for those of us straddling the gap between web design and web development,
>something like a reference guide for what the questions to ask even are,
>would be extremely helpful.
>
>As you said, the answer to many many questions is, "it depends," and
>knowledge of those topics comes with experience. However, maybe (and I
>volunteer to help with this project, inasmuch as I can) a sort of
>expansion
>of the Guide for the Perplexed would be really useful for those of us who
>are no longer total beginners, but are sort of struggling to level up?
>
>That is, those of us with some experience of various projects could
>contribute anything public-share-able from our post mortem project
>conversations, relevant to each type of project? It's something I've been
>thinking about for some time, and I'm still not sure what an optimal
>structure would be, but I keep thinking it would be a really worthwhile
>project.
>
>I will also say that everything I've found on alistapart and libux has
>been
>incredibly useful!
>
>On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Joshua Welker <wel...@ucmo.edu> wrote:
>
>> How many folks following this discussion are LITA members? Would
>> anyone be willing to join LITA to be a part of an interest group on
>> this subject? I will renew my membership in LITA if that is the best
>>route
>> to take.
>>
>> Josh Welker
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf
>> Of Cindi Blyberg
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:46 AM
>> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library community web standards (was:
>> LibGuides v2
>> -
>> Templates and Nav)
>>
>> Oh, and if UX doesn't fit, y'all can establish the LITA Web Standards
>> IG, or the LITA Code4Lib Web Best Practices IG, or whatever you want
>> to call it.
>> You need 10 LITA Member signatures:
>>
>>
>> http://www.ala.org/lita/sites/ala.org.lita/files/content/about/manual/
>> forms/e5-igformation.pdf
>>
>>
>> http://www.ala.org/lita/about/igs
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Cindi Blyberg <cindi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > *puts on LITA hat*
>> >
>> > There are several ways that LITA/ALA could play a role here.
>> >
>> > Publications:
>> > There is a series of books called LITA Guides.  Great way to get the
>> > word out widely, but a static format.
>> > http://www.alastore.ala.org/SearchResult.aspx?KeyWords=lita
>> >
>> > There are also Library Technology Reports - a periodical.  Still
>> > static, but published more regularly:
>> > http://alatechsource.org/ltr/index
>> >
>> > There is also the LITA UX Interest Group.  IGs are fluid,
>> > volunteer-run (not appointed), and can pretty much do what they want.
>> > Publish and update something? Sure!  Establish and run a virtual
>> > conference? Definitely! Have meetings and programs at conferences?
>>Yes!
>> > Caveat: must be a LITA member.
>> >
>> > Happy to provide more info if needed.
>> >
>> > -Cindi
>> > of the many hats
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Joshua Welker <wel...@ucmo.edu>
>>wrote:
>> >
>> >> I definitely agree that we should adhere to larger web standards
>> >> and that we should actively discourage conventions that libraries
>> >> have adopted over the years that have nothing to do with wider
>> >> standards and best practices (e.g.
>> >> tabbed search boxes, content in sidebar regions). In fact, much of
>> >> our work would just be bringing together information from several
>> >> standards into a common location and putting a "librarian" stamp of
>> >> approval on it.
>> >>
>> >> Some topics I had in mind:
>> >>
>> >> -Accessibility standards: screen readers, color blindness, keyboard
>> >> navigation, alt tags, etc.
>> >> -Text: readable fonts, colors, text alignment -Page layout:
>> >> navigation location, sidebars, headings and subheadings, search box
>> >> designs, database pages, mobile friendliness -Best practices for
>> >> specific library platforms: LibGuides, DSpace, etc.
>> >>
>> >> Some official name would be required, of course. I also think it
>> >> would be great if we could write a draft, bring it to an official
>> >> ALA group like LITA, and get them to adopt it after making their own
>> >> tweaks.
>> >>
>> >> Josh Welker
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On
>> >> Behalf Of Michael Schofield
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:01 AM
>> >> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>> >> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library community web standards (was:
>> >> LibGuides
>> >> v2 -
>> >> Templates and Nav)
>> >>
>> >> I am interested but I am a little hazy about what kind of standards
>> >> you all are suggesting. I would warn against creating standards
>> >> that conflict with any actual web standards, because I--and, I
>> >> think, many others--would honestly recommend that the #libweb
>> >> should aspire to and adhere more firmly to larger web standards and
>> >> best practices that conflict with something that's more, ah,
>> >> librarylike. Although that might not be what you folks have in mind
>>at
>> >> all : ).
>> >>
>> >> Michael S.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On
>> >> Behalf Of Brad Coffield
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:30 AM
>> >> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>> >> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library community web standards (was:
>> >> LibGuides
>> >> v2 -
>> >> Templates and Nav)
>> >>
>> >> Josh, thanks for separating this topic out and starting this new
>> >> thread. I don't know of any such library standards that exist on
>> >> the web. I agree that this sounds like a great idea. As for this
>> >> group or not... why not!
>> >> It's 2014 and they don't exist yet and they would be incredibly
>> >> useful for many libraries, if not all. Now all we need is a cool
>> 'working
>> >> group'
>> >> title
>> >> for ourselves and we're halfway done! Right???
>> >>
>> >> But seriously, I'd love to help.
>> >>
>> >> Brad
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Brad Coffield, MLIS
>> >> Assistant Information and Web Services Librarian Saint Francis
>> >> University
>> >> 814-472-3315
>> >> bcoffi...@francis.edu
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>--
>Megan (O'Neill) Kudzia
>Web Services & Emerging Technologies Librarian Stockwell-Mudd Library
>Albion
>College
>602 E. Cass St.
>Albion, MI 49224

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