What's an 'apostate distro'?

Anyhow, not all librarians work in roles where data recovery is the priority, 
so prioritizing data recovery wouldn't apply to all librarians. For those 
librarians who do work in a role where for some or all of their systems data 
recovery is a focus... why wouldn't you use the existing distro(s) that focus 
on that?

Developing and maintaining a distro such that is secure, reliable, and has a 
good "total cost of ownership" for users (back/forwards compatibility, etc)... 
is a very 'expensive' (labor intensive) proposition.  I think you are having 
trouble explaining what the benefits you see to doing this are, and convincing 
people they are worth the expense/risk. Unless you can make such a case (and 
show that you understand the 'costs' involved), I think you will have trouble 
recruiting people for your project. 

Jonathan
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From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of Cornel Darden 
Jr. [corneldarde...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:21 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux distro for librarians

Hello,

I'm not proposing that all librarians should use the same operating system. I 
think different people have different needs. When looking at the operating 
system that I found on foss4lib it had many programs that librarians'could' use 
in their work. I wish there were a better one. Maybe I'll eventually get to it 
and start a community. I think discovery is important here. Similar to many 
data recovery distros like knoppix. Doesn't need to be apostate distro, but 
point is data recovery, and gathering all the tools necessary for that end is 
the purpose of the operating system. This would be similar to one for 
librarians.


It sounds like we are starting a Linux debate. That was not my intention. But 
Linux, I believe is much better for information professionals. There are lots 
of things to work out: security, oppressive IT regimes, coding skills of 
librarians, compatibility, etc. I'm certain this is the century of open source. 
The things were currently trying to with technology demands it. Large adoption 
by librarians may be the missing link to the Linux and open source revolution.

But again, the debate was not my intent, just wanted to know If such an 
operating system exists.

Thanks,

Cornel Darden Jr.
MSLIS
Library Department Chair
South Suburban College
7087052945

"Our Mission is to Serve our Students and the Community through lifelong 
learning."

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> On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Craig Boman <craig.bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Cornel,
>
> As a linux librarian myself, there may be some issues with having a linux
> OS for librarians, as follows.
>
> First is security. Although linux is supposedly better for security, linux
> security requires setting up your own PC firewall rules where Windows or
> Macs have most of these predetermined. Most university IT departments, I
> would presume, have Windows anti-virus vendors which they encourage library
> IT to use. And also almost all of our university's technology
> infrastructure is more friendly towards PC. For example pay-for-print
> systems, etc. If individual librarians have linux, they wouldn't be able to
> print easily at our university.
>
> What about the differing needs of librarians? Are you presuming the needs
> of all librarians are similar? My needs in library IT are drastically
> different than your needs in reference using Ubuntu. Technical services
> staff have differing needs from IT. And most library staff don't have a
> choice what they get to use, due to how universities purchase PC's with
> Windows pre-installed.
>
> There appear to be a lot of technical and practical limitations to making a
> linux software for librarians. From a library IT standpoint, having
> different operating systems which we in IT then have to troubleshoot would
> be a bit of a nightmare; standardization does have some benefits.
>
> Please elaborate on how a linux for librarians would make our jobs easier?
> Are you referring to automation? Surely any automation features available
> in linux can be emulated in Windows, no? Have you looked at AutoIT or
> AutoHotKey?
>
> All the best,
> Craig Boman, MLIS
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 2:32 AM, Cornel Darden Jr. <corneldarde...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I did find Potthakalya on foss4lib. I'm not sure if it has a very active
>> development: https://foss4lib.org/package/potthakalaya
>> But it was what I was looking for. It looks like a linux operating system
>> built on puppy linux that comes pre-packaged with software for librarians
>> that make our jobs easier and more efficient! Does anyone know of anything
>> similar. Something like this is very helpful to the field.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Pottinger, Hardy J. <
>> pottinge...@missouri.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Honestly, your Host distro doesn't much matter, everything will be in
>>> Docker soon. Here's a quick way to get there
>>>
>>> https://coreos.com/blog/coreos-just-got-easier-to-try-with-panamax/
>>>
>>> But if you want a non-nonsense just get things done distro, try Crunch
>> Bang
>>>
>>> http://crunchbang.org/
>>>
>>> --Hardy
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:47 PM, "Cornel Darden Jr." <
>> corneldarde...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:corneldarde...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I believe librarians are special people. It would be nice if there were
>> an
>>> operating system created by us. Haven't come across one though.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Cornel Darden Jr.
>>> MSLIS
>>> Library Department Chair
>>> South Suburban College
>>> 7087052945
>>>
>>> "Our Mission is to Serve our Students and the Community through lifelong
>>> learning."
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Henry Mensch <he...@henare.org<mailto:
>>> he...@henare.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> because there aren't enough other distributions out there? :)
>>>
>>> ---Sent from Boxer | http://getboxer.com
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Every now and then I consider switching my main operating system. I've
>>> been using Ubuntu for years. Does anyone know of any Linux distros made
>> by
>>> librarians or One that's most used by librarians?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cornel Darden Jr.
>>> MSLIS
>>>
>>> Library Department Chair
>>>
>>> South Suburban College
>>>
>>> 7087052945
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Our Mission is to Serve our Students and the Community through lifelong
>>> learning."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cornel Darden Jr.
>> MSLIS
>>
>> "Compound interest is the greatest invention in the history of mankind."
>>
>>
>>
>> - Albert Einstein-
>>

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