> On 14 Jun, 2015, at 21:24, Dave Taht <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Flows, btw, do end quite rapidly in the real world. What was it, 95%
> of all web flows ended inside of IW10?

It might be worth thinking about how heavily loaded a network needs to be for 
Codel to trigger on such a flow.  However, with perfect flow isolation, count 
will start at 1, making it less relevant to the present thread.

Cake will start triggering on a instantly-arrived burst (call it a packet 
salvo) after 35ms.  Thus, a ten-packet burst will not trigger provided at least 
4.5 Mbps is available to that flow.  However, on many links that is still a 
tall order, since if the flows really are that short, there are probably lots 
of them in parallel.

A paced burst is much more friendly.  At a 100ms RTT, IW10 could be delivered 
at 100pps (1.5 Mbps), extending the range of link speeds on which congestion 
signalling will not occur by at least 3x (and generally more).  Since this 
greatly reduces the risk of packet loss, it might actually reduce the average 
time that the sender needs to maintain the connection’s buffers, despite the 
deliberate 1-RTT delay introduced.

 - Jonathan Morton

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