> On 4 Jun, 2016, at 17:01, moeller0 <moell...@gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> Maybe cake should allow to switch from the default mark by ECN policy to mark 
> by drop per command line argument? At least that would allow much easier in 
> the field testing… As is there is only the option of disabling ECN at the 
> endpoint(s)…

I consider ignoring ECN in the way I described to be a fault condition 
inevitably resulting in unresponsive traffic.  As a fault condition, it should 
be rare.

The main effect in practice is that the RTT for the affected flows grows well 
beyond normal, but since they are bulk transfers, this has only a minor 
detrimental effect (much of which is incurred sender-side in the form of 
retransmission buffers two orders of magnitude larger than necessary).

Rather than further complicate Codel or Cake, I’d like to simply apply a 
general solution for unresponsive traffic, ie. COBALT.

 - Jonathan Mortob

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