[EMAIL PROTECTED] is for technical discussions relating to the IRC
server software.  This is the wrong place for discussions of policy.  I
have been tolerant to date due to the fact that these changes are
controversial.  That tolerance has just run out.  Please take it to a
more appropriate list.

> > Best tool for the job.  IRC is overloaded and bloated as it is.  Cutting ou
> t
> > some of the unnecessary features is a *good thing*.  Not that I agree that
> 
> The problem is that you aren't removing the commands, you're making them oper
> only, which equates to more power to the opers, and a less informed userbase
> that continues to get abused by things such as throttling, which doesn't do
> anything for clones, global I lines, which do nothing for clones, etc.
> 
> > the hiding of the network topology is a good idea, and quite frankly if I h
> ear
> > that flame war one more time I'm probably going to have to be restrained ag
> ainst
> > my will or I'll hurt someone.  If you don't like the changes, tell the admi
> ns
> > of various servers.  /admin shows them to you, or, you can use 
> > http://www.undernet.org/servers.php.  Telling me that you don't like the id
> ea
> > isn't going to help, it's not going to change anything.  It's a free servic
> e,
> > and we are loosing servers over issues such as this.  If you don't like it
> > you're welcome to use anyone elses service.
> > 
> 
> You know as well as I do that most of the email addresses for servers are eit
> her
> directed to /dev/null, ignored, or deleted unread. 
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > -- 
> > QOTD: "I only touch base with reality on an as-needed basis!"
> 
> We've noticed.
> 
> -- 

-- 
Kevin L. Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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