I'm of the opinion that we should expect more of people, and they'll rise
to the occasion...  It's certainly better than assuming they'll fail
miserably.

  Or worse yet, to deny them the opportunity to prove a pessimistic view wrong.

  I'm no wiz with CIDR either, but I could grok it well enough to script up
an alias to ban taking in an IP range, and let the script translate it to
the appropriate closest CIDR notation.

In fact, I'd finished making said alias in a spare evening hour or so* (for
mirc, people can translate it reasonably to other clients or languages as
needs be).  People may not be able to understand CIDR notation by casual
inspection, but most do understand IP address ranges they'd like to contain
in a ban.

When we type, we don't have to pause to think about which ASCII or Unicode
sequences we need to use to put each letter down -- that's a low level
thing, like CIDR notation would be in banning, that we use tools to remove
ourselves from it the necessary distance to let us use IRC (and in this
case, control whom we fraternize with in a channel).

  This is the reason why we have computers and coders to make programs
remove the drudgework from otherwise menial tasks, to leave ourselves free
to think and do other things.

  Veering back toward the topic, I had tested out the CIDR notation in the
slim hope that Kev's guestimate that it might be accepted by ircu... and it
doesn't work presently.

  Christopher Robin / ChrstphrR

* Off-topic gripe: the logarithm functions in mirc lack enough precision to
have let me finish the alias in about 10-20 minutes. *grumble*


At 06:13 AM 5/8/2002 -0700, Diane wrote:
>  Given that a lot of admins have trouble understanding CIDR notation,
>I suspect users would do considerably worse.
>
>--
>Diane Bruce, http://www.db.net/~db [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>--- I'm too lazy to think of a new aphorism.


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