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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:27 AM
To: coder-com@undernet.org
Subject: Re: [Coder-com] What is this?

Carlo Wood wrote:

>[10:13] -helsinki.fi.eu.undernet.org/Wallops- Protocol Violation from 
>culay18: culay18 tried to CREATE a channel already joined [10:13] 
>-Lelystad.NL.EU.Undernet.org/Wallops- Protocol Violation from culay18: 
>culay18 tried to CREATE a channel already joined [10:13] 
>-London2.Uk.Eu.Undernet.org/Wallops- Protocol Violation from culay18: 
>culay18 tried to CREATE a channel already joined [10:13] 
>-h69.eu.undernet.org/Wallops- Protocol Violation from culay18: culay18 
>tried to CREATE a channel already joined [10:13] 
>-Ede.Nl.Eu.Undernet.org/Wallops- Protocol Violation from culay18: 
>culay18 tried to CREATE a channel already joined [10:13] 
>-Sterling.VA.US.Undernet.Org/Wallops- Protocol Violation from culay18: 
>culay18 tried to CREATE a channel already joined [10:13] 
>-Oper.Undernet.Org/Wallops- Protocol Violation from culay18: culay18 
>tried to CREATE a channel already joined [10:13] 
>-Montreal.QC.CA.Undernet.Org/Wallops- Protocol Violation from culay18: 
>culay18 tried to CREATE a channel already joined
>
>'Protocol Violation' sounds like a bug. If it's not a bug, then it 
>should be understood in what circumstances this can happen and the 
>server should deal with the message in the correct way instead of 
>walloping about it like that.
>  
>
Protocol Violation means that the server culay18 is on didn't follow the 
protocol. Did this happen immediately after a server connected to the 
network(i.e. during the burst?), or did it happen while the network was stable 
for a long(compared to the burst time) period of time? What is interesting is 
that it propagated so far that so many servers saw it:

    if ((chptr = FindChannel(name)))
    {
      /* Is the remote server confused? */
      if (find_member_link(chptr, sptr)) {
        protocol_violation(sptr, "%s tried to CREATE a channel already joined", 
cli_name(sptr));
        continue;
      }

I am guessing that a hub server processed a PART or KICK message, but didn't 
pass it along to the leaves for some reason. To know where the problem is, 
check what server culay18 is on, and I guess you will find that

helsinki.fi.eu.undernet.org, Lelystad.NL.EU.Undernet.org, 
London2.Uk.Eu.Undernet.org, h69.eu.undernet.org, Ede.Nl.Eu.Undernet.org, 
Sterling.VA.US.Undernet.Org, Oper.Undernet.Org, Montreal.QC.CA.Undernet.Org all 
connect together at the same hub, and that another server, and either culay18 
is on the hub, or on another server(other than the above) which connects to the 
hub and so on.

What version is this hub running, and what version is the server which connects 
culay18 to the hub running?

A1kmm


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