Podria alguien explicar en castellano de que diablos estan hablando, he leido
lo que dicen y contradicen acerca de Ligia Parra pero en ninguno dicen que es
el argumento o que fue lo que dijo o no dijo ella.
Cordialmente
Alejandro Reyes, Ph.D.
Phoenix, AZ
Mariano Lozada wrote:
> Me equivoqu�. Pastrana no es un huev�n. �Es un granhijueputa! �Va a
> continuar regal�ndole el pais a los hijueputas guerrilleros? �No hay
> derecho! �Qu� ilusos con eso de la paz!
>
> Mariano
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Ricardo Ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Ricardo Ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Macondo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Interesante...
> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:20:03 -0400
>
> [NOTE: The stage for an all-out-war in Colombia
> is being set. The "vietnamization" of Colombia
> continues to unfold. -DG]
>
> On Capitol Hill, congressional Republicans used
> hearings on Panama last week to hammer Mr.
> Pastrana and the Clinton administration on their
> failure to take a more hard-line approach to the
> Colombian rebels.
> ____________________ DALLAS MORNING NEWS
>
> Tuesday, 11 May 1999
>
> Second rebel haven offered
> Colombian leader says peace
> talks may require ceding land
> -----------------------------
>
> By Tod Robberson
>
> PANAMA CITY -- Risking further dismemberment of his war-ravaged country,
> Colombian President Andres Pastrana says he is willing to carve out a new
> safe haven for leftist guerrillas if it will advance the cause of peace.
>
> Mr. Pastrana already has garnered heavy criticism in the United States for
> ceding a Switzerland-sized chunk of his nation to rebels of the
> Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC. U.S. officials have
> labeled the group a terrorist organization that profits from Colombia's
> illicit drug trade.
>
> Mr. Pastrana told the Bogota daily El Tiempo in an interview published
> Sunday that he wants to discuss creation of a separate "peace zone" for
> the National Liberation Army, or ELN, Colombia's second-largest rebel
> group.
>
> "We must find a mechanism to sit down with the Liberation Army," Mr.
> Pastrana said. "The government is ready to find a mechanism. It can be a
> safe haven."
>
> The FARC and ELN have spent the last 35 years fighting to overthrow
> Colombia's democratically elected government. Since 1997, their combined
> forces of roughly 20,000 guerrillas have gained the upper hand against
> Colombia's 120,000-member armed forces and, according to U.S. assessments,
> have caused the central government to lose control of 40 percent to 60
> percent of the Colombian countryside.
>
> The Colombian president also agreed last week to negotiate terms with the
> FARC for expanding its current safe haven southward to include one of the
> heaviest cocaine-processing zones in the world, where the guerrillas say
> they hope to establish a volunteer crop-substitution program.
>
> In addition, Mr. Pastrana agreed to extend for at least another month the
> expiration date for the current FARC safe haven, which was to have
> returned to government control last Friday. That concession followed an
> unprecedented, face-to-face meeting on May 1 between Mr. Pastrana and FARC
> commander Manuel Marulanda.
>
> In return, the FARC agreed to move from an ill-defined series of dialogues
> it has conducted with government representatives since January to
> full-blown peace negotiations based on a 12-point agenda to include
> judicial, political, social and economic reforms.
>
> But the FARC reiterated its longstanding demand that the Colombian
> military crack down on right-wing paramilitary groups.
>
> Prediction of war
> -----------------
>
> "We have made clear to the government the threat posed by paramilitarism
> and that fighting against these groups is one of the fundamental elements
> that have kept the dialogues from dying since their start," FARC
> negotiator Raul Reyes said.
>
> He warned that if the peace process fails, "there will be in Colombia a
> war of unpredictable consequences."
>
> Both the FARC and ELN are on the State Department's list of international
> terrorist groups. In January, the Clinton administration dispatched two
> State Department officials to meet directly with FARC envoys in Costa
> Rica. In March, FARC guerrillas kidnapped and killed three American
> activists working in Colombia with an indigenous group.
>
> The ELN is the group responsible for last month's audacious hijacking of a
> Colombian commercial airliner carrying 45 passengers and crew. The rebels
> forced the plane down on a jungle airstrip, where all aboard were hustled
> away at gunpoint. The ELN continues to hold 25 of the hostages, including
> one American, but has said through intermediaries that it is willing to
> release the remaining captives.
>
> In Washington, a Clinton administration official warned that U.S.
> counternarcotics aid to Colombia, which this year will total nearly $300
> million, could be jeopardized if Mr. Pastrana's peace concessions block
> U.S. efforts to fight drug traffickers in guerrilla-controlled areas.
>
> "We've laid down our clear markers as to what we expect out of the peace
> process," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
> Territorial concessions "can't interfere with counternarcotics
> operations."
>
> The official insisted that counternarcotics efforts in Colombia have not
> been hampered by the FARC safe haven, although Colombian authorities have
> expressed deep frustration over their inability to pursue drug traffickers
> operating in the zone. In addition, Colombian police say they have
> detected efforts by the FARC to rebuild clandestine drug-trafficking
> airstrips that police destroyed inside the safe haven before the
> government's departure.
>
> Independent analysts have criticized Mr. Pastrana's approach to the
> guerrillas, suggesting that he has sent the wrong message by making a
> lengthy string of concessions without having even won a guerrilla pledge
> to honor a cease-fire.
>
> Unsavory options
> ----------------
>
> "Despite his repeated insistence that he will not trade land for peace, it
> appears that is where Pastrana is heading, at least with the FARC," said a
> report last week by Stratfor, an Austin-based international security think
> tank.
>
> "If a peace deal is not reached, the Colombian army may be forced either
> to fight to regain control of [the zone] or to abandon control of the
> region to the FARC - neither an attractive option," the report said.
>
> Robert Pastor, a former U.S. diplomat who helped negotiate a prisoner
> exchange between the government and FARC in 1997, said Mr. Pastrana
> appears more to be buying time than holding a true give-and-take
> negotiation with the rebels.
>
> The danger, he said, is that when Mr. Pastrana no longer can bow to rebel
> demands, all-out war will follow.
>
> "I think that's coming," said Mr. Pastor, a political science professor at
> Emory University. "I don't know if he [Mr. Pastrana] is going to be able
> to hold that off much longer."
>
> On Capitol Hill, congressional Republicans used hearings on Panama last
> week to hammer Mr. Pastrana and the Clinton administration on their
> failure to take a more hard-line approach to the Colombian rebels.
>
> "The message to the FARC has to be crystal clear," said Rep. Dan Burton,
> R-Ind., "that the United States and the government of Colombia are not
> dealing from a position of strength but a position of weakness, down there
> hat in hand, sitting across the table talking to these guys, even though
> they're killing people and kidnapping them."
>
> Copyright 1999 The Dallas Morning News
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