Hi Robert, * On Monday, May 9, 2005, at 11:14 PM GMT +0200, Robert Vojta wrote:
[snip] > Yes, this is done by art project, but ... As a new user, come to >www.openoffice.org and try to find how to help with promotion. So, you >will click on the "new user & general info" (1st click). Then you have >to read quite a lot of sentences until you'll find 'participate' link >(2nd click). Now, you'll see Marketing, OK, you have to guess it's a >proper link (3rd click). Then you'll hit the Marketing link (4th >click) and you'll see two links - Join or Distribute. The user doesn't >want to join or distribute, he wants to know where are the banners. >OK, he clicks Join (5th click) and then, victory. 6th click leads to >page with banners. Then why not just see about changing the particular links? BTW, We receive quite a lot of inquiries about promotion. They mostly straight to me or to the list dedicated to banners, logos, etc. We can foreground that with little difficulty, and create a section for promotion. It does not require a new project, does it? > > Do you understand my thinking (I know, too difficult sometimes ;-)? I >do not want to duplicate any existing work / site. I want to take the >most important info from "all" projects, the most important guides, >FAQs and put them on the small, not growing, site where the new user >will find everything very quickly. Of course. My point is that that is not a good solution, as it will inevitably duplicate what is on OOo. A better solution would be to propose to MP the points you raise and update the relevant pages. [snip] > > It does, but the site is too huge and not very friendly for the >newcomers. This site is very good for more experienced users and >volunteers, not for newcomers. Perhaps. >> That can be changed. Right now, Matthew Waldrop is redesigning the >> support page. It can be made to better address OOo user needs. We >> can also have fun creating a general page in MP that provides all >> the above (minus the add ons but with links to them). What this >> entails is putting the links in one place, really. > > The goal of my posts is not to create new site (this is just one >possibility), but to point out where I see the problems from the >newcomers point of view. Good. Then let's focus on that. > > Try to think like newcomer: > > - what the "hell" is the OpenOffice.org? - why I should use it? where > are the benefits? - hmm, nice, I've got lot of stuff in MS Office how > can I convert them? nice wizard, yuhuu - okay, where I can get it? - > good job boys, how can I help you with promotion? These are, again, good points. I'm curious. Do you think these would work well with the Product pages, too? Those are one of our most popular sets of pages, and they could always stand more attention. John covers most of the points you discuss here, but more is always possible. [snip] >> Not sure what you mean, exactly; you meant on OOo homepage? then you >> are right. But we have the "new users" page and we have rather >> flexible other pages. > > I mean the OOo homepage. As I wrote few paragraphs before, it's too >complicated on the first look - too many paragraphs, too many links, Well, I disagree but let's not get into that again. [snip] > I think that the easiest way is to create small, static, very nice, >well polished site, which will catch people and then, they are ready >to go through large site like *.openoffice.org. Or this can be done in >the current 'newcomers ...' page. Okay... but a "small static" site seems to contradict earlier points and risks a competitive site. I'd rather go with updating, for now, the "newcomers" page. Want to give it a try? Best, louis --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
