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> From: Juuso Koponen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Organization: n u t e m p o | eclectic beatz
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:48:50 +0300
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [maincommie] genres etc.
>
> Now that the list seems to be working again, here's a collage =) of
> messages that I tried to send of friday but didn't get thru..
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>> purposeful, i suppose) trash/camp-aspect of the track. and after all, most
>> of rap is damn corny and cheesy. though it sounds good mostly, which cannot
>
> Well, dunno about that. Depends of course what you think is
> corny and
> cheesy. And in which sense. I mean, the usual "big gun, big dick" -style
> bad bwoy lyrics might seem kinda corny from Finnish perspective but very
> often the rappers are dead serious about their thing. Not nearly always,
> of course.
no kiddin!
> Then again, there is a lot of really excellent social
> commentary around, too. (Despite whether you like the policies these
> guys endorse, one's got to admit that they do make their point clear,
> and with style.)
of course there is. you�re right. when talking about most of hip hip i
purposefully excluded these artists, stuff like gang starr, roots, a tribe
called quest, pharcyde, people under the stairs etc which aren�t relying on
the gangsta ethos.
>
>>> Mickey/Aphrodite would have sampled the lyrics off some
>>> US R&B track more likely..
>> which ain�t corny then?
>
> Not in the same sense, no. Bomfunk lyrics are (despite Raymond's
> most
> respectable b-boy/graffiti/etc. -history) not very credible, not to
> mention intelligent. They really sound like a bunch of wannabes in the
> Vanilla Ice street cred category (by the lyrics, their sound is better
> tho). I really can't see why people in the US would take them seriously
> when they start their campaign there..
damn true. and despite mr. ebank�s hip hop history, the band are a bunch of
wannabes. and i never said i liked any other bomfunk stuff than freestylers.
b-boys & flygirls is one of the most annoying tracks i�ve ever heard. it�s
so lousy it ain�t even camp.
> It's a different thing over here
> (in Europe, that is) - we don't have the same kind of ghetto culture and
> "keep it real" attitude, at least to the same extent.
> You might despise "MTV" R&B and maybe "MTV hip hop" too, because
> it's
> not very innovative or interesting, but at the same time I think one has
> to admit that it is not (mostly) corny, at least in the (lack of) street
> credibility aspect. With numerous exceptions, that is, which I needn't
> go into detail with (Puff Daddy and so on). It might be boring but not
> corny. (IMO)
bullshit. it is definitely corny. i live in finland, europe, so i�ll give a
jack shit to this keep it real-streetwise we�we got an attitude shit. if i�d
live in an us. inner city area i guess i would think otherwise. but to me
all this mainsteram hip hop boasting and stuff seems damn corny. that�s it.
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