................................. To leave Commie, hyper to http://commie.oy.com/commie_leaving.html ................................. Heikki Kiviluoto wrote: >>maybe, but how is nowadays' electro any more experimental then[...] to me >>the only differences seem to be the following: darker, gloomier stuff and >>"happier", cheesier stuff I am not going to go into the "What is electro" thread again. Very little good electro is released now and not very widely distributed. If you want to hear some, see Carl Finlows material, Erzats audio or Interdimensional transmissions labels or maybe Two Lone Swordsmen (can't think of any better right now). Too much of new electro is electro for electro's sake. Of course you can only go at certain lenghts in 'experimenting' and call it electro (which is a genre defined by it's aesthetics). Oops, I think I went too deep into this conversation again... >>what i want to questionize is the most-over-used term "experimental". is >>there anything really experimental in electronic music any more or is it >>all just plain genre music appealing only to genre-freaks? Juuso Koponen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Well, it's not very often that you hear anything groundbreaking these >days. So-called "experimental" electronic music is mostly boring noise and >weirdness for weirdness's sake. I think most of the popular music nowdays is boring noise. Actually, I think we could apply that to ALL music. Seriously, how do you measure the innovative or experimental quality of music? By the fact that it pleases your ear, or by the comparison of it's production, sounds, composition and theory / ideas to other music of its kind, in this case electronic music? When these two are combined, it is sweet indeed! :) Anyone interested in modern experimental electronic music should have been at the Avanto festival in Helsinki last november. It was a brilliant happening with a kind of an open mind that we have lately been seeing here and there in Finlands electronic music scene. > The most innovative stuff today, I think, is the West London sound, a.k.a. >brokenbeat, house not house or shiki shiki. They (I.G. >Culture, Modaji, Dego, Alex Attias, Kaidi Tatham et al.) are IMO >really pushing the limits of electronic dance music into new fields. I'd really like to hear this. Do they have material online? If I may suggest some examples of modern electronic experimentation, you could check ie. the Mego label, the Audio.Nl label, japanese noise music with likes of Merzbow or Aube, Kaffe Matthews's music (she's great!:) or Mika Vainios latest solo-lp, Kajo. I'm sure other people can come up with a lot more extensive lists of modern sound sculptors. My own, strictly subjective favourites within dance music could be Gerhard Potuznik, Patrick Pulsinger, Wolfgang Voigt (especially as Gas), 12K label's material by Taylor Deupree, Shuttle358 and Komet, Kompakt label releases and other german housey minimalism... To sum it up: With modern equipment it is possible to produce anykind of audible and inaudible sounds and to compose them into patterns that we call music. Before this the capabilities of intruments and their players defined the borders. Now these borders don't exist anymore, thanks to electronic instruments, but we are still composing in the style of the old music. Isn't experimentation in electronic music about seeing how far we can go with these new possibilities? Sorry for a long rant... -Kvantti X-Rust.org/LMI.gr _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
